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OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 12:51 AM
Just wondering what you guys and gals think. I say we take the bastard out! Let the flames begin. LOL

Phoenix
09-30-2002, 01:01 AM
Im a pacifist:) Make love, not war! :jammin:

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
09-30-2002, 01:05 AM
[quote:20d2d3b26d="Phoenix"]Im a pacifist:) Make love, not war! :jammin:[/quote:20d2d3b26d]

Nah your just GAY!!

Blow him up.
Finished what your dad started there Mr. Pres.

OUTLAWS Spike
09-30-2002, 01:16 AM
[quote:6d34e012b1="WHOCARES"][quote:6d34e012b1="Phoenix"]Im a pacifist:) Make love, not war! :jammin:[/quote:6d34e012b1]

Nah your just GAY!!

Blow him up.
Finished what your dad started there Mr. Pres.[/quote:6d34e012b1]
Amen to that!!

Gun Element
09-30-2002, 01:17 AM
Ive heard of this. From what Ive learned its best to wait till they actually doooo something. Which may never happen.

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 01:50 AM
Yah. What a great idea Gun. Lets wait until he releases small pox or a nuke. Then we'll go after him. LOL

MR. SLiK
09-30-2002, 01:53 AM
I think that the US should wait for UN approval or something because going in alone might strain relations with allies.

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 01:55 AM
LOL> They will get over it.

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 01:56 AM
What the hell are they going to do. Throw sand at us.

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 01:56 AM
Hehehe. I'm cruel. LOL

MR. SLiK
09-30-2002, 01:58 AM
So you think its smart to bomb the hell out of Iraq, then have all the allies upset and mad that you went alone and without UN approval? Enough people hate the US, doing that WITHOUT UN approval would further strain views. Your making it sound like **** the rest, US the best. Your not republican are you? We need allies (especially in the middle east and arabic countries) for oil most importantly, and other things. If there cut off US = screwed.

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
09-30-2002, 01:59 AM
[quote:4688cf433f="OUTLAWS The Machine"]What the hell are they going to do. Throw sand at us.[/quote:4688cf433f]


No its buckets of Camel PISS!

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 02:09 AM
They will hate us even if we have UN approval.

OUTLAWS high ping camper
09-30-2002, 02:10 AM
My philosophy has alway been: "Nuke any country that does not contribute to the porn industry." ............Just a thought....LOL :P

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 02:10 AM
I don't think they can afford to cut us off from oil.

Norcon
09-30-2002, 03:27 AM
war solves nothing

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 03:35 AM
[quote:323c17a263="Norcon"]war solves nothing[/quote:323c17a263]

I disagree.

Doing nothing solves nothing. I really do not want it to come to war. I think that freakaziod needs to step down and they need a serious government overhaul.

09-30-2002, 03:37 AM
Me canadian and me likes peace.

Dangerous Dan
09-30-2002, 03:39 AM
same here

Dan2
09-30-2002, 03:39 AM
We need 1 sniper to go in and play Instagib with Hussein... Game Over.

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 03:40 AM
I do too. There would be much more peace around here if we would have marched into Bagdad 10 yrs ago.

OUTLAWS high ping camper
09-30-2002, 04:27 AM
[quote:187096cbb0="OUTLAWS high ping camper"]My philosophy has alway been: "Nuke any country that does not contribute to the porn industry." ............Just a thought....LOL :P[/quote:187096cbb0]

I laugh every time I read this..... I'm glad I can amuse myself. :lol: :lol:

Mr Clean
09-30-2002, 04:44 AM
[quote:76a21bed3c]My philosophy has alway been: "Nuke any country that does not contribute to the porn industry." ............Just a thought....LOL [/quote:76a21bed3c]

OR to the manufacturer of Cheez Whiz....

Phoenix
09-30-2002, 04:50 AM
Peace guys!!!!

Mr Clean
09-30-2002, 04:51 AM
We don't rely on Middle East oil nearly as much as we used to. Russia has dramatically increased production over the past decade and so have Norway and Sweden in the Baltic Sea. Two days ago the Turkish government caught a couple of dudes trying to smuggle uranium to Syria (and guess who's south of there??? Iraq). We want to wait until they use that stuff??? We are THE one country that doesn't need help or approval from the rest of the pansies to act before Saddam the lunatic strikes again. I can't even believe some of you think nothing is ever going to happen. Stop watching left-wing CNN and get with the program..... :x

HAMMER
09-30-2002, 12:46 PM
[quote:d6280f98a3="Dan2"]We need 1 sniper to go in and play Instagib with Hussein... Game Over.[/quote:d6280f98a3]

Now THERE's an idea...

HAMMER
09-30-2002, 12:48 PM
[quote:db229a9815="mrclean"]We don't rely on Middle East oil nearly as much as we used to. Russia has dramatically increased production over the past decade and so have Norway and Sweden in the Baltic Sea. Two days ago the Turkish government caught a couple of dudes trying to smuggle uranium to Syria (and guess who's south of there??? Iraq). We want to wait until they use that stuff??? We are THE one country that doesn't need help or approval from the rest of the pansies to act before Saddam the lunatic strikes again. I can't even believe some of you think nothing is ever going to happen. Stop watching left-wing CNN and get with the program..... :x[/quote:db229a9815]

So...i'll take that as a big YES vote!

Gun Element
09-30-2002, 01:24 PM
Maybe a warning to scare them enough to make them surrender. Like beating his ass on SS. :twisted:

TheUltimateWarrior
09-30-2002, 01:33 PM
i say bomb that mother****er!!

when he's dead satan will be his little bitch LOL
sorry i'm just another south park freak

but serious, if the us just waits around till something happens, its TOO LATE!!! Think about it, we just wait untill he bomb somebody???

If i had control over Holland (too bad i dont)
I would be supporting the US!!!!

OUTLAWS The Machine
09-30-2002, 01:35 PM
I think if we went in all their damn army would surrender like they did last time. LOL.

::: DARK PSI :::
09-30-2002, 01:54 PM
[quote:8328726ce6="OUTLAWS The Machine"]What the hell are they going to do. Throw sand at us.[/quote:8328726ce6]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

::: DARK PSI :::
09-30-2002, 01:57 PM
Slik do you have relatives over in Iraq still?

Sauron
09-30-2002, 02:55 PM
I dont vote cause the thing i would do isnt an option in the poll

I would send an special forces Team to eliminate Saddam and dont nuke the whole country cause most of the iraqi ppl dont support Saddam anymore they are just too scared to do anything against him

Saretta
09-30-2002, 03:01 PM
[quote:0625bf855a="Sauron"]I dont vote cause the thing i would do isnt an option in the poll

I would send an special forces Team to eliminate Saddam and dont nuke the whole country cause most of the iraqi ppl dont support Saddam anymore they are just too scared to do anything against him[/quote:0625bf855a]

Same here! But u shouldn't forget to eleminate the lookalikes from saddam too.

MR. SLiK
09-30-2002, 11:34 PM
[quote:1879e299ef=":: DARK LEVIATHAN ::"]Slik do you have relatives over in Iraq still?[/quote:1879e299ef]

Im not Iraqi. But I do have some brand new Italian bitches recently acquired off ebay. That ass jipped me. He said I was getting some slut named Gregory Basshoe. Shit.

OUTLAWS Spike
09-30-2002, 11:46 PM
[quote:4ce1951ebb="MR. SLiK"][quote:4ce1951ebb=":: DARK LEVIATHAN ::"]Slik do you have relatives over in Iraq still?[/quote:4ce1951ebb]

Im not Iraqi. But I do have some brand new Italian bitches recently acquired off ebay. That ass jipped me. He said I was getting some slut named Gregory Basshoe. ****.[/quote:4ce1951ebb]
:splat: lmao

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-03-2002, 05:19 AM
Take that whole family out and stop all immigration to the US.And put all the terrorist 6 ft. under.No trial just like they did the people in the towers.
Put them in a tower 50 floors up and set a fire under their ass and let them feel what the people in the tower felt.or bury them next to a fire with the same heat factor that was felt under the towers.If we could do that to saddams whole family and make saddam the last one it would be right.

10-03-2002, 05:20 AM
[quote:da082e853e="OUTLAWS CHICO"]Take that whole family out and stop all immigration to the US.And put all the terrorist 6 ft. under.No trial just like they did the people in the towers.
Put them in a tower 50 floors up and set a fire under their ass and let them feel what the people in the tower felt.or bury them next to a fire with the same heat factor that was felt under the towers.If we could do that to saddams whole family and make saddam the last one it would be right.[/quote:da082e853e]

harsh ....

i dont know if i agree with ya on that..

G|Star
10-03-2002, 05:35 AM
I didn't knew i was chatting with RACISTS here,
i'm a muslim myself and i know what the hell is going on in Iraq
JUST HOW CAN U SAY THAT "they will attack us with sand or CAMELPISS"

HOW CAN U ATTACK A COUNTRY WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING DONE?!? SADDAM IS THE ONLY MAN WHO SHOULD BE SHOT WITH A DAMN BAZOOKA THE OTHERS DIDNT DO SHIT
fvuck racists i cant stand them i have said no offcourse

Phoenix
10-03-2002, 05:38 AM
......PEACE!!!!

G|Star
10-03-2002, 05:41 AM
yes peace,
how would u feel if u live in iraq u have nothing done, no weapons only live with ur familie in one house on the countryside and suddenly some ****ing army people are coming in ur house and shoot the crap out of u.
that is whats going to happen if america is going to attack iraq, US doesnt have the guts to attack iraq without the approval of UN.

PEACE

10-03-2002, 05:52 AM
well i am one of the 4 votes as well..

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-03-2002, 05:53 AM
I'm no Racist and I hope that you would see that My opinion is that saddams whole family should endure what the people endured in NY.
I am an AMERICAN INDIAN so I endure racism every now and then.
I also know a few muslims and they are nice folks.But when you take and call us racist know that justice is not taking the lives of innocent people. :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-03-2002, 05:55 AM
Iraq then should not worry :shock: then huh.

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-03-2002, 10:39 AM
[quote:dab6a86f5b="DOA player-4-life"]yes peace,
how would u feel if u live in iraq u have nothing done, no weapons only live with ur familie in one house on the countryside and suddenly some **** army people are coming in ur house and shoot the crap out of u.
that is whats going to happen if america is going to attack iraq, US doesnt have the guts to attack iraq without the approval of UN.

PEACE[/quote:dab6a86f5b]

First of all we don't bomb houses on the countryside. We go after military targets only. The sad thing is that they purposly put their radars and crap as close to civilians as possible so when the civilians get injured or killed they can show pictures of it.

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-03-2002, 10:47 AM
[quote:808cb686af="DOA player-4-life"]I didn't knew i was chatting with RACISTS here,
i'm a muslim myself and i know what the hell is going on in Iraq
JUST HOW CAN U SAY THAT "they will attack us with sand or CAMELPISS"

HOW CAN U ATTACK A COUNTRY WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING DONE?!? SADDAM IS THE ONLY MAN WHO SHOULD BE SHOT WITH A DAMN BAZOOKA THE OTHERS DIDNT DO ****
fvuck racists i cant stand them i have said no offcourse[/quote:808cb686af]

I'm not racist by any means. I do think that most Muslim Extremists are a little off though.

G|Star
10-03-2002, 12:53 PM
could be but when US is going to attack Iraq they are going to attack innocent people also, thats the most thing im worried about just ****ing kill SADAM and leave the country alone

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-03-2002, 02:18 PM
[quote:dcb63e9d7b="DOA player-4-life"]could be but when US is going to attack Iraq they are going to attack innocent people also, thats the most thing im worried about just **** kill SADAM and leave the country alone[/quote:dcb63e9d7b]

I agree. I wish the damn people over there would just take him out so that we wouldn't have too. Man if a freak like that came into power over here he wouldn't last a day. LOL

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-04-2002, 02:06 AM
If you guys know what he is doing as far as using civilians as targets then why don't you help the US by suppling info on him?Not trying to be a smart ass or anything just curiouse.

Mr Clean
10-04-2002, 05:33 AM
Okay, reply time:

Player, I don't think anyone was trying to be a racist. Your a Muslim. I'm a German, that doesn't make me a Nazi. No one is calling you a terrorist, but terrorists sure the hell tend to be extremist male Muslims between 17-40 years old. I know many Muslims and they all hate terrorism. It's the few bad apples that are ruining Islam. The sand and camel comment, btw, was out of line, I agree with you there.

As far as the innocent people killed, you are talking about a few thousand in a country of millions. Do I want to see even one single life killed? Hell no, but it happens. There are that many people in Iraq that will die from the measels this year. It's better to lose a few thousand as opposed to the tens or even hundreds of thousands that will perish if Saddam ever builds his arsenal of evil. In fact I'd be willing to bet he'll kill his own people like crazy and blame it on the U.S., or as punishment for his power slipping away (He's done it before). He's nuts. Stalin was nuts, Hitler was nuts, Napoleon...history is full of sick bastards that the world ignored and hoped would go away, only to pay a much higher price later in fighting them off.

Thomas Jefferson once said the tree of democracy must occasionally be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike. What that means is ALL sides suffer in the fight, and ALL sides take losses. But history has continually shown that the longer you wait the more that fight will cost.

Chico:

Everyone knows what he does. That doesn't change the fact that we have to do what is needed before he gets out of hand, like the Hitlers and Stalins of the past....

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-04-2002, 10:10 AM
Well said mrclean.

Gun Element
10-04-2002, 01:00 PM
[quote:22ccb5458c="Ra/en"]well i am one of the 4 votes as well..[/quote:22ccb5458c]


Same here.

Dark Reign
10-04-2002, 01:04 PM
Now 5.... :D

Dark Reign
10-04-2002, 01:12 PM
Saddam Hussien is a crazy son-of-a bitch who should be taken out.
HOWEVER, declaring war on Iraq NOW would not be good. We do not have enough support from other nations. If we did go in and take out Iraq itself then would have trouble devolping a solid new government, one that is free of socoipaths, like what we are trying to do in Afganhistan.

So, I say that we do take out Saddam, and If the only way is war, then we go in after we have gotten more support so we lessen the many enemies we have.

BTW, I think the Bush Administration is not taking this into full consideration, because they have to find away to get Media attention off the hurting economy, corrupt businesses, and everything else they have smashed in order to save their name. American's approval rating of him has actually dropped lately, so hopefully he can be taken out for 2004.

Gun Element
10-04-2002, 01:14 PM
[quote:f098723689="Dark Reign"]Saddam Hussien is a crazy son-of-a bitch who should be taken out.
HOWEVER, declaring war on Iraq NOW would not be good. We do not have enough support from other nations. If we did go in and take out Iraq itself then would have trouble devolping a solid new government, one that is free of socoipaths, like what we are trying to do in Afganhistan.

So, I say that we do take out Saddam, and If the only way is war, then we go in after we have gotten more support so we lessen the many enemies we have.

BTW, I think the Bush Administration is not taking this into full consideration, because they have to find away to get Media attention off the hurting economy, corrupt businesses, and everything else they have smashed in order to save their name. American's approval rating of him has actually dropped lately, so hopefully he can be taken out for 2004.[/quote:f098723689]


Me too? :wink:

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-06-2002, 12:04 AM
Mr. Clean you indeed are a intelligant man.Thanks for those words of wisdom. But I still am curiouse as to why none of his people will stand against him.

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-06-2002, 12:14 AM
[quote:d7df653a5c="OUTLAWS CHICO"]Mr. Clean you indeed are a intelligant man.Thanks for those words of wisdom. But I still am curiouse as to why none of his people will stand against him.[/quote:d7df653a5c]

Probably because they will be shot on the spot if they even say something against him.

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-06-2002, 01:34 AM
Surely the US could obtain information from a person and provide safety for a single person. As with the United States we cannot watch every single person.

Falkentyne
10-06-2002, 11:41 PM
Guys,
ALL of you are forgetting one thing.

The USA has never, ever in its history, started a war unprovoked (first strike?). Doing this will set a very very dangerous precedent. And this could lead up to the events that will cause the destruction of mankind.

The bottom line is this.
Our foreign policy sucks.

We should not be meddling in the affairs of other countries, EXCEPT For humanitarian aid and trade. We need to worry about our own selves... education, violence, the poor and destitute, raising our children properly, and being there for them, our prisons, anger management and people who can't control their temper (like that idiot who keeps harassing me with life threating threats).

Now, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't stop VERY BAD PEOPLE from doing things, otherwise we will have another Adolf Hitler on our hands. If the USA had not entered WWII in 1944 (???) When did we declare war(?) , the Axis powers might have taken over most of the free world. And that wouldn't do anything for anyone.

Doing something about the ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia (milsoevic?) MIGHT have been a good thing, as that man was killing tons of people, much like Hitler did.


But...what has IRAQ done?

Besides invade Kuwait in 1990 (and that war had international support), what have they done since then?

develop some weapons? Well guess what, WHO CARES? Until they actaully start DOING something....the OIL companies care. We are there for oil. Thats the only reason. Black Gold. The oil companies are in control of this country, and we want to go there, not just to "remove Saddam", but to control the oil. Without oil, this country's economy could collapse in the likes NOTHING of you have ever, EVER ever seen before, in your lifetime.

If we simply gave aid to the Muslims, and trade, in exchange for oil, and kept our nose out of everyone else's business, we wouldn't have this problem. Americans would be welcome to visit the Holy Places, and other cities, because they would be known as a country that helped others, and didn't get involved politically, except for things that REQUIRED international agreement (very very important things). Saddam decides to suddenly activate his weapons and making preparations to gas Israel? THEN we can act....as we would have unilaterial international support, as he would be universally condemned. Unfortunately, that is our choice.

Act decent and start worrying about the people of this country, and only act when the need is truly warranted, or make an unprovoked attack (pre-emptive strike), in the interests of oil.

The events of the next few months will have an impact for as long as we all live here.


Just like the impact of the " Great War " (World War 1) is still shaping society today. (why? Because, Hitler was only made possible because of the humiliation and economic collapse of Germany, after the treaty of Versailles). So the events of World War 1, were partly responsible for what caused World War 2, and the events after the end of WW2, have evolved the societies into what they are today.

I would hate to think of what the "events of World War 3" would involve, as far as world layout, for those who survived it, and werent multilated or deformed enough to remain people versus creatures that needed to be put out of their misery...

K-PAX
10-07-2002, 01:58 AM
Well, let me get my 2 cents in. First of all we have hundreds of alternative fuels and WE DO NOT NEED THEIR STUPID DINOSAUR GOO! We have enough oil in US soil to last us for several hundreds of years but as bad as the air quality is why are we continuing to use oil anyway? We just have so many greedy politicians that are getting their pockets lined from the taxes, companies and foreign countries all derived from oil it will never end!

Next, how many of yall remember when we nuked Japan? Ever see anymore crap out of them? NOT!

Their is always loss in war and as long as you have greed and power hungry idiots, you will have wars. I think we should be like Switzerland, unless you bother us we will not bother you but when we do strike it needs to be merciless, PERIOD! Drop 2 or 3 nukes and Miller Time!

This U.N. shit is about to get on my nerves. We have become a Pepsi generation. To be honest, I do not understand why their is so much killing in the name of GOD.
Why do these people destroy other people in the name of GOD?. Can anyone give me a no-nonsense answer to that question? My GOD is of Love and peace not hate and discontent. THOU SHOU NOT KILL!

If we did bomb Iraq how would they even know? That place looks like a shit hole of rubble and broken down buildings. The people are all starving, they beat the shit out of their wife's and all you ever see on TV is them shooting a AK at someone. Looks to me like they have no respect for their, families, community, country or HUMAN LIFE, PERIOD! My god, what a load of horse shit! I say give them guns and LOTS of bullets and let em at it till the smoke clears and the problem has rid itself!

I get sick of seeing their pissing and moaning. That group of people are right where they have worked so hard to get to (self destruction) and their plan to completely
eliminate their entire race is almost complete. The way I see it, just killing their self is not gratifying enough so they steal a couple of planes and start killing us and for what? All in the name of GOD?, what a load! I am not racist but I am sure sick of seeing that race piss and moan about this and that and all of the killing they do! I guarantee if we had dropped a nuke on that country, that would end this terrorist shit! Would you harbor a looser (like they are) if the police where going to make you and your family pay the price? Don't think so but we have become so soft, we just get run over and this is the price we pay for allowing a government, motivated by a product that is killing humans in epic proportions make decisions for us.


We have alot to learn and I don't see any hope on the horizon. Sad.

Maybe we should do some killing in the name of GOD! It's been an expectable excuse for them.......................Stupid, huh?

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-07-2002, 02:24 AM
Nice K-PAX.

WillyTrombone
10-07-2002, 02:26 AM
heh. I was going to reply with a well-expanded and fortified explanation of my opinion, especially to the comments about the US never starting an unprovoked war, but then I got to the "US declared war in 1944" or some shit like that and all I can say is I'm appalled. Go get a history book. And for the good of the nation, please, PLEASE don't vote or procreate.

As for never starting an unprovoked war, umm... of the top of my head: 1812, Civil War (sure, the South fired the first shot, but they ARE Americans. Further, the buildup for the war traces back as far as the Jefferson administration (president #3, 1801-1809 for you ignorants out there)), Spanish-American War, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Gulf I, and Afghanistan. I'm sure there are more, but my point is made. Hell, even with WWI, we weren't 'provoked' although we also didn't start the war.

There is currently a widespread anti-USA movement in the middle-east. Its dangers were proven last year with the attacks. Voting is closed, but I would vote yes because Saddam funds terrorists. He pulled strings a few months ago to get the Palestinians all riled up and blowing themselves up to draw the attention away from his despotism because he knows he's next. We can't start with the deeply rooted terrorist nations like Egypt, Iran, and Syria, so we have to start with the podunk dictators like Saddam and the Taliban.

K-PAX
10-07-2002, 02:46 AM
Thx Machine.............

Mr Clean
10-09-2002, 04:49 PM
Here I go again....

[quote:e7a196c4b9]As for never starting an unprovoked war, umm... of the top of my head: 1812, Civil War (sure, the South fired the first shot, but they ARE Americans. Further, the buildup for the war traces back as far as the Jefferson administration (president #3, 1801-1809 for you ignorants out there)), Spanish-American War, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Gulf I, and Afghanistan. I'm sure there are more, but my point is made. Hell, even with WWI, we weren't 'provoked' although we also didn't start the war[/quote:e7a196c4b9]
I guess it depends on your definition of provoked, but Nam, Korea, Gulf War, and Afghanistan were denifitely either provoked or we were asked by our allies/UN to help intervene in the situation. Did the Koreans attack us? No. Did they attack our ally? Yes, which is the same thing as an attack on us.

Phoenix
10-09-2002, 04:50 PM
yeah, lets kill em all...MURDER is fun!

Mr Clean
10-09-2002, 04:53 PM
[quote:2fffb3918f]Mr. Clean you indeed are a intelligant man.Thanks for those words of wisdom. But I still am curiouse as to why none of his people will stand against him.[/quote:2fffb3918f]

They are afraid of him and his gang of thugs. But how many of his "soldiers" fought hard for him when the 2nd Armored Calvary attacked in Kuwait? They were surrendering to TV crews from CNN. They have no love for him, but also no mechanism to bring about change. Sooner or later they will make him pay...

Mr Clean
10-09-2002, 06:38 PM
And one more time:

[quote:e2a809ada9]develop some weapons? Well guess what, WHO CARES? Until they actaully start DOING something....the OIL companies care. We are there for oil. Thats the only reason. Black Gold. The oil companies are in control of this country, and we want to go there, not just to "remove Saddam", but to control the oil. Without oil, this country's economy could collapse in the likes NOTHING of you have ever, EVER ever seen before, in your lifetime. [/quote:e2a809ada9]

Two points on this. First, if you want to wait until Saddam does something with his weapons of terror before acting, that's like standing under a grand piano held up with a fraying rope-and after the rope breaks and the piano is hurtling at you decide that action is needed. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. See my earlier post about Hitler and Stalin. IF you don't stop him know it'll be MUCH harder to later...

Second, no Middle East country wants to stop selling oil to us, nor do they want our economy to collapse. Why? Because the US economy is THE driving force behind the whole world economy. We consume the most oil, but who are they going to sell it to if not us? What good would that do their economy? They need to sell it to us as much as we need to buy it. And the way Russia is expanding their oil production our reliance on OPEC decreases a little every day. Norway and Sweden have also made huge strides in their production as well, especially in the Baltic Sea. Every time the US economy has a recession the WHOLE damn world goes into a recession. Every country on Earth sells products here, and they need us. The US Dollar is the unofficial currency in dozens of countries. We patent more new medicines every year than the rest of the world COMBINED. We patent more new computer technologies every year than the rest of the world COMBINED. So yes you are right that our economy would collapse without oil. But that will NEVER happen! The world needs us. There might be some extremists who don't care what happens as long as the US crumbles, but the rest of the world doesn't want that, believe me.

OUTLAWS The Machine
10-09-2002, 08:22 PM
MrClean for president! You got my vote man. LOL

FUS1ON
10-09-2002, 10:30 PM
[quote:c5c8b13a69="OUTLAWS The Machine"]MrClean for president! You got my vote man. LOL[/quote:c5c8b13a69]

Same here! :jammin:

K-PAX
10-09-2002, 11:23 PM
I'm votin for him too!

OUTLAWS Spike
10-09-2002, 11:59 PM
me too!! :D

OUTLAWS CHICO
10-10-2002, 01:28 AM
What it boils down to is any persons that choose to kill innocent children,womenand even their own and say that their religion approves of it are not good people.If the US was to say **** it and send a nuclear bomb over there then we would be no better than that sorry sack of shit saddam. As far as being provoked when those bombs failed we should have took action,but when the planes hit we did and power of justice had it's price,(some innocent people died,sadly) If I had it my way I would stand in front of saddam with a pistol and the better man shall prevail.I would gladly put a knife to his vital organs and remove them for him.But unfortunatly He has to many people protecting his sick ass.So we have to depend on our soldiers to try and eliminate iraqi's sick **** of a leader.So if his own people can't handle their problem then we will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-10-2002, 04:17 AM
"You've Got To Die For The Government"

You've gotta die, gotta die, gotta die for your government?
Die for your country? That's shit!
There's a Gulf War vet, dying a slow, cold death
And the government says, "We don't know the source of his sickness."
But don't believe what they say, because your government is lying
They've done it before and don't you know they'll do it again
A secret test, government built virus
"Subject Test Group: Gulf Battle Field Troops"
You've gotta die, gotta die, gotta die for your government?
Die for your country? That's shit!
First World War veterans slaughtered, by General Eisenhower
You give them your life, they give you a stab in the back
Radiation, agent orange, tested on US souls
Guinea pigs for Western corporations
I never have, I never will
Pledge allegiance to their flag
You're getting used, you'll end up dead!
You've gotta die, gotta die, gotta die for your government?
Die for your country? That's shit!
I don't need you to tell me what to do
And I don't need you to tell me what to be... **** YOU!
I don't need you to tell me what to say
And I don't need you to tell me what to think! What to think!
What to think, what to think, what to think, think, think, think!
You've gotta die, gotta die, gotta die for your government?
Die for your country? That's shit!



LOL anti-flag is so funny.

Mr Clean
10-10-2002, 08:51 PM
[quote:3d9d409274]LOL anti-flag is so funny.[/quote:3d9d409274]

Oh yeah that's real cute.... :roll:

[quote:3d9d409274]First World War veterans slaughtered, by General Eisenhower [/quote:3d9d409274]

Maybe if they had stayed in school and off of drugs the writers of that little diddy would have realized that Ike was a general during the SECOND World War. Speaks volumes for that whole crowd....

10-10-2002, 09:31 PM
i actually think they mean that the first world war veterans that were lucky enough to survive were slaughtered by the second world war.

Drunken Warrior
10-10-2002, 10:03 PM
Too bad we could'nt put all the the terrorists in SS:SE and let all the gamers decide their fate like in Tron.

Drunken Warrior
10-10-2002, 10:04 PM
At least that way no innocent people would get hurt.

Drunken Warrior
10-10-2002, 10:05 PM
Too bad we live in the real world :(

10-10-2002, 10:11 PM
anti-flag is a band.... dont worry i dont feel like that...

i just find their blatent outspoken hate for north america quite funny..

Mr Clean
10-11-2002, 01:56 PM
Cool. :D