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Snip3r
05-26-2003, 05:50 PM
So we can explain to those people why Matrix Reloaded was so good. Only fanboys are allowed in this thread ;)

SIFI
05-26-2003, 05:53 PM
if only fans came to the thread, then who would there be to explain the movie to.

SASQUATCH
05-26-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Snip3r@May 26 2003, 12:50 PM
So we can explain to those people why Matrix Reloaded was so good. Only fanboys are allowed in this thread ;)
:lol:

Sorry Sniper I didn't like the movie but the action was entertaining.

Cartoon version:
I will send you to a link when I can find it for you to check out. It's really cool
and explains the story in good detail and you would find it fun to see it yourself.
I also believe you can buy the CD too which I believe my older brother has it.

Once again I am sorry but I just find the movie just an action pack entertainment but the story
is excellent. I would prefer to read the book instead.

SAS

Snip3r
05-26-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by SASQUATCH+May 26 2003, 12:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SASQUATCH @ May 26 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Snip3r@May 26 2003, 12:50 PM
So we can explain to those people why Matrix Reloaded was so good. Only fanboys are allowed in this thread ;)
:lol:

Sorry Sniper I didn&#39;t like the movie but the action was entertaining.

Cartoon version:
I will send you to a link when I can find it for you to check out. It&#39;s really cool
and explains the story in good detail and you would find it fun to see it yourself.
I also believe you can buy the CD too which I believe my older brother has it.

Once again I am sorry but I just find the movie just an action pack entertainment but the story
is excellent. I would prefer to read the book instead.

SAS [/b][/quote]
I&#39;ve already seen the Animatrix episodes, 1-4 the days that they came out :D
I agree it tells the story better and here is the link
www.animatrix.com
;)

SASQUATCH
05-26-2003, 07:35 PM
Thx man&#33; :thumbs:

EXEcution
05-26-2003, 08:25 PM
i just saw the movie and i got lost at the end :WTF:

SASQUATCH
05-27-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by xtremegamer@May 26 2003, 03:25 PM
i just saw the movie and i got lost at the end :WTF:
:lol: :wave:

Snip3r
05-27-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by xtremegamer@May 26 2003, 03:25 PM
i just saw the movie and i got lost at the end :WTF:
Xtreme, if you don&#39;t understand the end then read my explanation below
DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE SPOILER&#33;&#33;&#33;






























Their were 5 "The One"&#39;s before Neo. The One is a part of the Matrix, the matrix created him so he can reset Zion. The Architech said 99% of the people think the Matrix is real, the other 1% doesn&#39;t. This 1% is why Zion was created. Zion was created by machines. No one cares how it was built, they just know it was. Well Agent Smith became a virus because the agents got upgraded. Their was a 6 month timespan between when the first Matrix takes place and when the second Matrix. That&#39;s when the Architech upgraded the Agents. The Oracle was saying how a program will hack the Matrix just to get away from being deleted. Agent Smith was going to get overwritten so he hacked the Matrix and became a virus that can copy itself. In the first one Neo killed Agent Smith. When he killed Smith, a part of Neo&#39;s code went into Smith and Vice versa. This explains why Smith can fight so good and why Neo stopped the Sentinels at the end. Smith Transferred himself into Bane&#39;s body. Bane returned to the real world, but Bane is now Agent Smith, I will call Bane BaneSmith to make it easier. And all Smith wants to do is kill Neo, thats his mission I guess, that and destroy Zion. Well anyways back to Neo and the Architech. Every "The One" before Neo chose the door on the right, that door resets Zion (kills all the people),but The one has to pick 16 male and 16 female to rebuild Zion, they are the only ones that survive. Neo is the only one that chose the door on the left, that door saves Trinity and The human race gets destroyed because the Sentinels find Zion and kill EVERYONE, I&#39;m still not sure how that kills the human race but still. Well anywho remember when the captain at the end said that 5 ships got destroyed suddenly? That&#39;s because BaneSmith told the Sentinels where the ships were,they destroyed them,that&#39;s why he was the only survivor, he&#39;s like a spy now. Now Zion only has 24 hours to live. Neo must stop the Sentinels. He stopped the Sentinels before, so I guess he is a part of the MAtrix, he has some control over them. Remember in the first one when Neo got caught by the agents and he was in the room being interrogated? Remember when it kind of zoomed in and u heard that weird electronic noise and saw the green lines across the screen, like u were lookin into a TV? Well you were. That was the Architech watching Neo. Ok I think I explained everything. Now I can be qualified as the biggest MAtrix fan ever. I typed all of that w00t.

EXEcution
05-27-2003, 07:36 PM
thanx dude i understand it better now, but its still a bit vague&#33;&#33; PS
MOVIE SPOILER DONT READ IF YA HAVENT SEEN IT



















When neo stopped the Sentinels it seemed a bit weird how he did it and now its seems that there is a matrix inside the matrix (zion) but neo and others dont realize it&#33; Weird yes but well have to wait for Revolution or Revolutions (i forget which one) to find out&#33;

Strifer
05-27-2003, 08:04 PM
It was Revolutions. Check my avatar. I think it came out quite well. :P

Sexyjess
05-27-2003, 08:07 PM
dont just say anything willsee it soon :shifty: ;)

Scorch
05-27-2003, 08:17 PM
I heard in other places too that Zion is also part of the matrix.

Nick
05-27-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Scorch@May 27 2003, 08:17 PM
I heard in other places too that Zion is also part of the matrix.
Neo will be the first one to "really" wake up at the end of revolutions...
wanna bet &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :devil:

SLayER
05-27-2003, 09:21 PM
wow thanks for that explanation i understand it a lot better know coz i got a bit lossed whilst watching it :wootrock:

whats all this fanboys - im a fangirl ;) :P

EXEcution
05-27-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by SLayER@May 27 2003, 05:21 PM


whats all this fanboys - im a fangirl ;) :P
its like Gameboy, girls play it but Gamegirl just doesnt sound as good :P

Dangerous Dan
05-27-2003, 10:14 PM
i dunno, i quite liked the story, i thought it was rather deep if you went further into it

Snip3r
05-28-2003, 12:49 AM
Some people think their is a Matrix inside of the Matrix but I dunno...I don&#39;t agree, it would ruin the whole plot.

Strider
05-28-2003, 12:53 AM
yea.

yo andy, fix that pic of you in your avie, that&#39;s when you were a fat boy ;) lol

SALvation
05-28-2003, 01:00 AM
Here is the dialogue between Neo and the architect. Now you can read the whole thing and understan dit :D

Architect: Hello Neo

Neo: Who are you?

Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions and although the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human, ergo some of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question maybe the most pertinent you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden deciduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexcerably here.

Neo: You haven’t answered my question.

Architect: Quite right. Interesting, that was quicker then the others.

Neo: Others? (What others? How many? Answer me)

Architect: The Matrix is older then you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next. In which case this is the sixth version.

Neo: Then there are only two possible explanations, either no one told me, or no one knows.

Architect: Precisely, as you are undoubtedly gathering the anomaly is systemic. Creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

Neo: Choice, the problem is choice.

Architect: The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus, I redesigned it, Based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However I was again frustrated my failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another, and intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: The Oracle

Architect: Please, as I was saying she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99 percent of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at an unconscious level. While this answered function it was obviously fundamentally flawed thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly. That if left unchecked might threaten the system itself, ergo those that refuse the program while the minority if unchecked would cause an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion

Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bull

Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it. And we have become exceedingly efficient at it. The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix. Which, coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo: You won’t let it happen, you can’t. You need human beings to survive.

Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were by design based on a similar predication a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way your experience is far more specific, Vis a vie love.

Neo: Trinity

Architect: Apropo, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo: No

Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors, the door to your right leads to the source and the salvation of Zion, the door to your left leads back to the matrix to her and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know we you are going to do don’t we? Already I can see the chain reaction the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth, she is going to die and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.

Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we don’t meet again.

Architect: We won’t.

Snip3r
05-28-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Strider@May 27 2003, 07:53 PM
yea.

yo andy, fix that pic of you in your avie, that&#39;s when you were a fat boy ;) lol
Im not fat, I weigh 100 pounds and I&#39;m MAD skinny, u can see my ribs and u can see my arm bones im so skinny. My avatar had to be sized a certain way ni order for it to fit and it made me look fat.