Enough!

[Sirc]

My little 1 Gig Athlon ain't cutting it any more. Yodeller, the floor in Hole, and Fortress lag out in framerates so much I can't follow anyone. Also, my crappy DSL is on the way out. The 1 year contract is up this month and I am gonna finally be moving back to RoadRunner cable. :wootrock:

I need kick ass:

Mother board
Processor ( and heatsink/fan)
Memory
Power supply
Hard drive


I'm not interested in any fancy lights or anything like that. I am willing to cut a hole in the side of my old case to put in an extra fan if need be. I'm gonna keep the case, the Audigy Gamer, and the GF4 TI 4400.

I've got my credit card ready. Show me the way! :w00t:

(PS - I'd like to stay with AMD please)

[Sirc]

:bandhead: I can post GGs all day and the boards run fine. When I try to post something important (at least to me) it takes me 8 tries to get the post to work. Ahhhh! :bandhead:

[ME BIGGD01]

ok sirc, i would be more than happy to reccomend some components for you. please let me know what your budget is.

heres what i need to know

what board you have now running that 1 ghz amd athlon (model number)
what video card you have
what type of memory (ram) you have and how much
what type of hard drive (model number would be good but if you know the specs would be better)

as soon as you reply to this, i will make suggestions and price probabilitys :thumbs:

[Sirc]

Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Sep 8 2003, 02:32 AM
ok sirc, i would be more than happy to reccomend some components for you. please let me know what your budget is.

heres what i need to know

what board you have now running that 1 ghz amd athlon (model number)
what video card you have
what type of memory (ram) you have and how much
what type of hard drive (model number would be good but if you know the specs would be better)

as soon as you reply to this, i will make suggestions and price probabilitys :thumbs:
No budget, although I would like to stay with the 32 bit stuff. I'm not ready to move to 64 bit, and I don't want to wait. All of the crap I mentioned is old and slow and will be used to build a system for my youngest son. So I'm basically looking to gut my case and fill it with goodies. :w00t:

[Grimmy]

asus a7n8x deluxe
2 x 512 coshair 3200 ddram
amd xp 2800+ or higher with slk 800 hs and thermaltake cool mod (fan rules like 75 cfm)

Had it for a while, haven't seen much better other then 64 bit stuff. Plays sam flawless, Q3 sam, DAOC greatly, but then again, I have a 9700 pro :jammin:

oh, get rid of win 2000, get xp pro! :thumbs:

[Sirc]

Originally posted by Grimmy@Sep 8 2003, 02:59 AM
asus a7n8x deluxe
2 x 512 coshair 3200 ddram
amd xp 2800+ or higher with slk 800 hs and thermaltake cool mod (fan rules like 75 cfm)

Had it for a while, haven't seen much better other then 64 bit stuff. Plays sam flawless, Q3 sam, DAOC greatly, but then again, I have a 9700 pro :jammin:

oh, get rid of win 2000, get xp pro! :thumbs:
Thanks Grimmy! But nope, I can't get rid of 2000. That's what we us for the test software at work and I have to use that OS to program with. :bawling:

[Grimmy]

from newegg

As for 2k, wouldn't everything be compatible with XP and you be able to do it on XP level? Could do a dual boot sys also, if you have 2 hd's

[Sirc]

Originally posted by Grimmy@Sep 8 2003, 03:07 AM
from newegg

As for 2k, wouldn't everything be compatible with XP and you be able to do it on XP level? Could do a dual boot sys also, if you have 2 hd's
Sweet! Thanks. Um, I have two HDs now, and I think one of them is a 7200 rpm, but I'm not sure. I'll have to check. If so then I can use it as a second boot disk. But if not I hate to partition a single HD into two boot drives. I've had an HD go bad before and have lost everything on both partitions. That sucks. :bawling:

As for compatibily beween Win2K and Xp, yep, they are pretty much the same. But if there is a problem, and you find a potential bug in the development software, and you tell the support people that you are developing software in one OS and running it on another they will just laugh at you. It just isn't done I guess. :WTF:

[Grimmy]

well I just suggested it for the dual boot. As to how to do it, well someone else will have to tell you how, becuase I don't know. Just heard don't install XP first. Also if you deside to go this route, you can get XP fairly cheak from newegg IMO, they require you to but some hardware, but if you get a mobo, or a proc, even a simple floppy, that is considered hardware and you get it at that price. Asus rulez!!! haven't had a problem other then seeing things I never seen before due to the full use of my 9700 pro in gaming, takes time to adjust, but was for the better for sure! Plus the dual LAN could come in handly too. I would suggest an audigy 2 sound card if you don't have an offboard card. The audio on that asus board is good, but I paid like $78 or 72 for an audigy 2, and there is no comparasion in sound. Audigy PWNS! that that is all there is to it, all sound sounds different and to hear it where it comes from and how it sounds is another thing (I have 5.1 speakers so that helps too) :D

[Sirc]

What about a PS? Any thoughts? :hmmm:

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

Unless you plan to overclock I would suggest paying an extra 10 bucks or so for the retail cpu.]
This way it comes with HSF and a 3 year warranty.

[Yellow[GummiBear]]

Originally posted by Sirc@Sep 8 2003, 02:25 AM
What about a PS? Any thoughts? :hmmm:
I always roll with Antec for my PSU's. I did have one go bad on me but I had it terribly overloaded. Their customer service department is rather good IMO.

[Sirc]

Still looking for HD recommendations. Something around 80 Gig.

[Yellow[GummiBear]]

check out Ableshoppers (http://www.ableshoppers.com) , Spoofee (http://www.spoofee.com) , SlickDeals (http://slickdeals.net) , DealNews (http://dealnews.com) , FatWallet (http://www.fatwallet.com) , TechBargains (http://www.techbargains.com) , XPBargains (http://www.xpbargains.com)

you can almost always find a deal on one of those sites at least once a week or every other week (a lot of the sites run the same deals so you don't necessarily have to check all of them)

I'd recommend Seagate, WD, or Maxtor (in no particular order). I have two of each brand in my pc now and they all work great! :thumbs:

[FUS1ON]

Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 8MB Model # 6Y080P0 LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16822144205)
Size: 80 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Seek time: <9ms
RPM:7200
Data Transfer: 133MB/sec
Cache:8MB

[Sirc]

Thanks everyone&#33; :wave:

One more thing. After thinking about it I&#39;ve decided to keep my current system intact, so I will need a case for the new system after all. Something cheap and basic, but good. I don&#39;t care about lights or windows or anything fancy. If it came with a PS then that would probably be best.

[JIMINATOR]

check the sunday circulars for drives with rebates for the best prices.
rebates are a pain, but you can get a good drive about &#036;80 that way.
for cases, unless it is a known manufacturer with good PSs, get them
seperate. You don&#39;t want to be using a &#39;freebie&#39; unit with a high end cpu.

[Yellow[GummiBear]]

like I said before, Antec is where I&#39;d look... they make great cases and have really good PSU&#39;s that can come along with the case and possibly save you a few bucks than if you&#39;d buy them separately

[Grimmy]

MUAHAHA http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/11-133-105-02.JPG


But beware, it is big and heavy, aluminum pwns&#33; :jammin:

[Sirc]

Okay, this is what I plan on buying so far. I need a heat sink and fan for the proc. What else? Cables? Preferably from New Egg. Don&#39;t care about DVD right now. I will be keeping the GF4 TI 4400 for now too.

Sorry, its kinda long.

ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W P4 Power Supply ATX12V Retail
Specifications:
Case type: SOHO File Server
Case Color: Antec Metalic Gray
Case Dimensions: 20.6" x 8.1" x 18.6" (H/W/D)
Drive bays: 10
Front accesible 4x 5.25, 2x 3.5" Internal 4x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 3 Short 4 Full Length
2 Rear Standard Fans 1 Side fan
Washable Air Filter in front more info>
N82E16811129115 &#036;105.00
&#036;105.00

Plextor 52x24x52 BLACK CD-RW ATAPI Drive Model PX-W5224TA-BPS-BL - OEM Bulk pack w/ Roxio , Photosuite 5E, and Dantc Retrospect Software
Specifications:
BLACK Color Bezel
Speed: 52X write, 24X rewrite, 52X read
Interface: E-IDE ATAPI
Buffer Under Run Proof technology prevents buffer underrun errors
2 MB Buffer
Supports Disc-at-Once, Track-at-Once, Session-at-Once, Multisession, Variable & Fixed packet writing modes and Mt. Rainier
Flash ROM allows for easy upgrade over the Internet
Windows 98/2000/ME/XP
One-Year Full Warranty and Unlimited Toll-Free Tech Support

OEM Bulk pack w/ Roxio easy Cd Creator, Photosuite 5E, and Dantc Retrospect Software more info>
N82E16827106242 &#036;59.99
&#036;59.99

Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 8MB Model # 6Y080P0
Specifications:
Size: 80 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Seek time: <9ms
RPM:7200
Data Transfer: 133MB/sec
Cache:8MB
OEM(Drive alone) 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty: more info>
N82E16822144205 &#036;92.00
&#036;92.00

2 x CRUCIAL MICRON 512MB 64x64 PC 3200 DDR RAM - OEM
184-Pin DIMM, CL=3.0 -Unbuffered Non Parity 2.5V, CT6464Z40B Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. OEM more info>
N82E16820146532 &#036;93.00
&#036;186.00

Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail
Socket A AMD Athlon XP/Duron (support AMD XP 3200+ "Barton")
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra SPP, nForce2 MCP-T
FSB: 400/333/266MHz
IDE: 2 x ATA133
RAM: Dual Channel DDR 400 3x 184-pin DIMM Sockets (PC3200/PC2700/PC2100 non-ECC DDR)
Slots: 1x AGP (Pro/8X), 5x PCI
Ports: 6x USB2.0
Onboard Silicon Image Sil 3112A Controller w/ 2 ports
NVIDIA SoundStorm Audio Processor Unit with Dolby
MCP integrated 3Com MAC + Broadcom AC101L PHY LAN
Firewire 1394: 2 Ports MCP-T integrated IEEE 1394a + Realtek PHY 8801B
more info>
N82E16813131436 &#036;124.99
&#036;124.99

AMD ATHLON XP 3000 "Barton" 400MHz FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM
Specifications:
CPU: 2.1 GHz
Type: XP 3000 Barton Core
Cache: 512K L2
FRONT SIDE BUS: 400MHz
Socket A
OEM (Chip Only See pics) more info>
N82E16819103394 &#036;262.00
&#036;262.00


Subtotal » &#036;829.98

[Slice]

I just bought an Antec case kinda like that one but it is black and came with a 400 watt ps for &#036;80. Add two 80mm fans to the list as it only comes with 2 fans in the back. You really need some fans in the front drawing air in and accross the board.

[Sirc]

Originally posted by Slice@Sep 21 2003, 10:07 AM
I just bought an Antec case kinda like that one but it is black and came with a 400 watt ps for &#036;80. Add two 80mm fans to the list as it only comes with 2 fans in the back. You really need some fans in the front drawing air in and accross the board.
I would like to order this stuff tonight if possible. I think I&#39;m gonna go with the SLK800 heat sink, but I need a 80mm fan recommendation to go with it. Also a recommendation for the extra case fan like Slice mentioned (something preferably quiet).

Do I need cables or will they be supplied the the HD? I don&#39;t really care about round cables unless there is a real advantage besides just looking better.

Anything else? What about thermal grease? What&#39;s best? I heard somewhere that using Artic Silver will void the warrenty on the AMD proc. :hmmm:

I would really like to be able to order everything from New Egg.

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

All your cables will be supplied with the MB.
As for fans I bought an Antec case and it came with 3 of the 5 fans.
I would suggest to go with the Antec fans.
Pick them up at Comp Usa for 5 bucks or so.

Go with the Artec Silver paste.
If anything happens to the Processor I dought they will care.

As for cables my Temp dropped atbout 5degrees F when I switched to round.
I wouldn&#39;t order those till you set the system up. It would suck to order cables that are too short.

I f you have any ?&#39;s about the setup pf that board there are about 10 of us that have the same.

[EXEcution]

Cool&#33;
My rig is not gonna be as good but urs is awesome&#33;

[FUS1ON]

Sirc I would mount this Thermaltake 80x80x25 fan NewEgg LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16835999111) on the SLK800.

Thermaltake&#39;s LINK (http://www.thermaltake.com/products/dcfan/a1357.htm)

Normally it&#39;s speed (1300rpm at 20 ºc 4800rpm at
55 ºc) is controlled by temp. Or you can over-ride that feature and can set it to 4800rpm full time if needed.

[Sirc]

Ordered&#33; :cool:

Thanks for your help everyone&#33; :thumbs:

[OUTLAWS high ping camper]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS SHOGUN@Sep 8 2003, 08:16 AM
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 8MB Model # 6Y080P0 LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16822144205)
Size: 80 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Seek time: <9ms
RPM:7200
Data Transfer: 133MB/sec
Cache:8MB
:thumbs: Hey&#33; That&#39;s what I&#39;ve got&#33; :thumbs:

As you can see above, I give it 2 thumbs up&#33; :)

Picked it up at Staples for &#036;79.99 (after rebate). You can get it for less now, just need to shop around.

[Grimmy]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS SHOGUN@Sep 21 2003, 03:00 PM
Sirc I would mount this Thermaltake 80x80x25 fan NewEgg LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16835999111) on the SLK800.

Thermaltake&#39;s LINK (http://www.thermaltake.com/products/dcfan/a1357.htm)

Normally it&#39;s speed (1300rpm at 20 ºc 4800rpm at
55 ºc) is controlled by temp. Or you can over-ride that feature and can set it to 4800rpm full time if needed.
Thermaltake fans are the shiot&#33;&#33;&#33; The ones in my case are like 75cfm and supposidly the one on my pro is the same, have the thremaltake cool mod, with the LEDs :D Only when it&#39;s warm has my proc gottem warm, concerned me, but when I ask others nothing to worry about. :jammin: Thermaltake PWNS JOO&#33; :jammin:

[Pure_Evil]

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[Sirc]

W00t&#33; I order all the stuff from New Egg Sunday night and it shipped yesterday (Monday)&#33; :w00t:

I just checked the fed ex tracking and I may actually get it tomorrow. I love New Egg&#33; :wootrock:

[Drunken Warrior]

Originally posted by Sirc+Sep 8 2003, 01:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sirc @ Sep 8 2003, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Grimmy@Sep 8 2003, 02:59 AM
asus a7n8x deluxe
2 x 512 coshair 3200 ddram
amd xp 2800+ or higher with slk 800 hs and thermaltake cool mod (fan rules like 75 cfm)

Had it for a while, haven&#39;t seen much better other then 64 bit stuff.&nbsp; Plays sam flawless, Q3 sam, DAOC greatly, but then again, I have a 9700 pro&nbsp; :jammin:

oh, get rid of win 2000, get xp pro&#33;&nbsp; :thumbs:
Thanks Grimmy&#33; But nope, I can&#39;t get rid of 2000. That&#39;s what we us for the test software at work and I have to use that OS to program with. :bawling: [/b][/quote]
Get XP pro anyway and have a dual boot system :thumbs: