Poor Flipper

[::: DARK PSI :::]

Damn..

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html

[Pure_Evil]

Well, that brightened my day :down:

The guy with the Snorkle :WTF: That's just f-n gross! :down:

[Fred Bear]

that pic is fake. how many dolfins would it take to make the water that red?

[Gun Element]

I dunno, it looks pretty damn real to me which is unfortunate :down:

[::: DARK PSI :::]

Originally posted by Fred Bear@Oct 29 2003, 11:38 AM
that pic is fake. how many dolfins would it take to make the water that red?
Fake or not fake.. it is just sick.

[JIMINATOR]

well that just sucks.

too much of that crap anyway.

:down: :down: :down:

[Sacrifice]

damn those people. that is just wrong.

[Sexyjess]

Originally posted by :: DARK LEVIATHAN ::+Oct 29 2003, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (:: DARK LEVIATHAN :: @ Oct 29 2003, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Fred Bear@Oct 29 2003, 11:38 AM
that pic is fake.&nbsp; how many dolfins would it take to make the water that red?
Fake or not fake.. it is just sick. [/b][/quote]
why you post it then :P

[::: DARK PSI :::]

Originally posted by Sexy_sweetface+Oct 29 2003, 01:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sexy_sweetface @ Oct 29 2003, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by :: DARK LEVIATHAN ::@Oct 29 2003, 03:56 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Fred Bear@Oct 29 2003, 11:38 AM
that pic is fake.* how many dolfins would it take to make the water that red?
Fake or not fake.. it is just sick.
why you post it then :P [/b][/quote]
For you.

[FUS1ON]

Jaws needs to munch on those &@#%&#036;&#39;ers :mad:

[death maker]

damn that sux.... pour thingers :(

[PimpDaddy]

Fake sh1t. Animal rights activist propaganda.

[death maker]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Oct 29 2003, 07:14 PM
Fake sh1t. Animal rights activist propaganda.
then wat are those things in the boat? my moms lypo?

[Grimmy]

:blink: There goes lunch :wacko: sickos&#33;&#33;

[solid snake295]

im pretty sure the water is fake.... but the rest looks real to me.
if only they had frickin lasers attached to theyre heads

[EXEcution]

:rofl: THATS IS FAKE&#33;
Some people might believe it.
I dunno guys but all those pics look PhotoShopped to me&#33;

[PimpDaddy]

Originally posted by DaRkAgent@Oct 29 2003, 04:23 PM
:rofl: THATS IS FAKE&#33;
Some people might believe it.
I dunno guys but all those pics look PhotoShopped to me&#33;
No doubt about it Dark :thumbs:

[JIMINATOR]

original article at http://www.seashepherd.org/taiji.shtml

for any organization promoting a cause, they cannot make crap up
without getting nailed.

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 04:36 PM
original article at http://www.seashepherd.org/taiji.shtml

for any organization promoting a cause, they cannot make crap up
without getting nailed.
JIM JUST LOOK AT IT&#33; :rofl:

[JIMINATOR]

if its fake, post some proof. i haven&#39;t seen anything to indicate it is fake or photoshopped. they were talking about 60 kills there. that is a lot of blood.

[Crism]

dude...do you all know how FAKE that is?

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 04:43 PM
if its fake, post some proof. i haven&#39;t seen anything to indicate it is fake or photoshopped. they were talking about 60 kills there. that is a lot of blood.
BLOOD DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT WHEN ITS IN THE WATER&#33;

[Sepra]

Not that I&#39;m saying those pics are cool or anything but they&#39;re using the dolphins for food. It&#39;s strange to hear dolphin in a can but it&#39;s a different culture. Tuna are just about as big as a dolphin and are killed and canned in supermarkets daily. :hmmm: Do we call that tuna masacre?

[Sepra]

Another thought about the hunting seasons here where I live. People killing deer and other animals left and right. That&#39;s no different, and lots dont look at is as masacre. Also, it&#39;s no different from farms that kill animals for food for that matter. It&#39;s just that we dont see the bloodshead from the cows before we buy the ground meat in the supermarket.

[SoulReaver]

That is just sad :( those fishermans are :loser: :baby:

[SoulReaver]

Originally posted by Sepra@Oct 29 2003, 05:37 PM
Another thought about the hunting seasons here where I live. People killing deer and other animals left and right. That&#39;s no different, and lots dont look at is as masacre. Also, it&#39;s no different from farms that kill animals for food for that matter. It&#39;s just that we dont see the bloodshead from the cows before we buy the ground meat in the supermarket.
yeah good point :thumbs:

[death maker]

blah to u all

[merkwannabe]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 01:43 PM
if its fake, post some proof. i haven&#39;t seen anything to indicate it is fake or photoshopped. they were talking about 60 kills there. that is a lot of blood.
:thumbs: Jim, good job... Btw, how is this photoshopped? That&#39;s impossible except for maybe the redness of the water. Jim&#39;s link proved that this was not a hoax. Plus the blood of a Dolphin very well may be that color when mixed in with the water of the ocean..


Btw, tuna isn&#39;t a mammal.. I don&#39;t think tuna stay together in families. The news link said the babies were killed as their mothers were. But I see your point. :bawling:

[SIFI]

Originally posted by merkwannabe+Oct 29 2003, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (merkwannabe @ Oct 29 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 01:43 PM
if its fake, post some proof. i haven&#39;t seen anything to indicate it is fake or photoshopped. they were talking about 60 kills there. that is a lot of blood.
:thumbs: Jim, good job... Btw, how is this photoshopped? That&#39;s impossible except for maybe the redness of the water. Jim&#39;s link proved that this was not a hoax. Plus the blood of a Dolphin very well may be that color when mixed in with the water of the ocean..


Btw, tuna isn&#39;t a mammal.. I don&#39;t think tuna stay together in families. The news link said the babies were killed as their mothers were. But I see your point. :bawling: [/b][/quote]
lots of species of fish swim in families or schools as well

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by merkwannabe+Oct 29 2003, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (merkwannabe @ Oct 29 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 01:43 PM
if its fake, post some proof. i haven&#39;t seen anything to indicate it is fake or photoshopped. they were talking about 60 kills there. that is a lot of blood.
:thumbs: Jim, good job... Btw, how is this photoshopped? [/b][/quote]
U would be surprised&#33; :devil:

[JIMINATOR]

dolphins are mammals, i have read somewhere that their neurological
systems are advanced more than humans. as for self aware, who knows.
They have put mirrors in front of monkeys, and monkeys have
learned to groom themselves based on the mirrors.... :hmmm:
Mass slaughter of entire families is pathetic. but what the hell, man
does it to other men, just look at some of the recent civil wars...

[Slice]

Originally posted by DaRkAgent+Oct 29 2003, 04:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DaRkAgent @ Oct 29 2003, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 04:36 PM
original article at http://www.seashepherd.org/taiji.shtml

for any organization promoting a cause, they cannot make crap up
without getting nailed.
JIM JUST LOOK AT IT&#33; :rofl: [/b][/quote]
Watch the movie, looks damn real to me&#33;

[MANSON]

Something tells me Flipper will not be Flipping anymore? :blink:

[::: DARK PSI :::]

Originally posted by Slice+Oct 29 2003, 09:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Slice @ Oct 29 2003, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DaRkAgent@Oct 29 2003, 04:39 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-JIMINATOR@Oct 29 2003, 04:36 PM
original article at http://www.seashepherd.org/taiji.shtml

for any organization promoting a cause, they cannot make crap up
without getting nailed.
JIM JUST LOOK AT IT&#33; :rofl:
Watch the movie, looks damn real to me&#33; [/b][/quote]
Good call on the movie. Man I wish this sh&#33;t was fake.

[MANSON]

Hey try to get a hold of those guys and see if they can do that to Xwifes&#33;&#33;


:hmmm:

[OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32]

If you think those pics are real, then I have some flippers of Nessie that I can sell you for a limited time at half price.

Seriously though, it&#39;s simple math. A human body has 6 quarts of blood in it. I&#39;m going to take a conservative estimate and say that those dolphins weighed 500 pounds each. Now let&#39;s say that "magicially", 90% of the animal&#39;s blood went into the ocean when the fisherman slit their throats(anyone who knows anything about blood from death knows that this is a ridiculously high percentage; but again, I am trying to emphasize). So, since they weigh about twice a normal human; then I am going to say that they would need twice the amount of blood. So, let&#39;s say that from each dolphin, there produced 20 liters of blood(which is also ridiculously high; if you&#39;ve ever gone fishing you know that this is stupidly high).

Now, in order for the sea to change to that color, I would have to say that there would have to be a very, very high concentration of blood in that area. As everyone knows, blood&#39;s density is greater than salt water&#39;s(not by a lot, by about .015 kg/L), so it sinks and disperses. Now, in that one pick, the diver was up to his neck, so I&#39;m going to again say, conservatively, that the water there is 2 meters deep. In that zoomed out pic of the cove, if the boat is 5 meters long(you can tell this by the zoomed in pic), then the overall area of the cove in the zoomed out shot is approximately 15 meters by 15 meters. So, in order to find the MINIMUM volume of the water in the cove, take 15mX15mX2m, and you get 450m^3.

So, there is a minimum of 450m^3 in that cove shot. Now, in the boat, I would say that there are 20 dolphins. So, if each dolphin produced 20 liters of blood, then that would be 400 liters of blood total, assuming they were all drained in that same spot(which they most likely were not). Now, a single liter has 0.001 m^3 of volume(http://www.bartleby.com/65/li/liter.html). So, 400X0.001= .4m^3 of volume of blood.

Those pics did not come from .088% total volume of blood&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Sorry, it would not be that color. And I even took a convservative approach and assumed that every dolphin was slaughtered in the same spot.

[Sepra]

Originally posted by merkwannabe@Oct 29 2003, 04:44 PM
Btw, tuna isn&#39;t a mammal.. I don&#39;t think tuna stay together in families. The news link said the babies were killed as their mothers were. But I see your point. :bawling:
Yeah, now that you mention it in that way :( I dont think a tuna would grieve over a member of the school being lost. :(

[merkwannabe]

Originally posted by Sepra+Oct 31 2003, 08:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sepra &#064; Oct 31 2003, 08:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-merkwannabe@Oct 29 2003, 04:44 PM
Btw, tuna isn&#39;t a mammal..* I don&#39;t think tuna stay together in families.* The news link said the babies were killed as their mothers were.* But I see your point.*&nbsp; :bawling:
Yeah, now that you mention it in that way :( I dont think a tuna would grieve over a member of the school being lost. :( [/b][/quote]
:thumbs:

[merkwannabe]

Good work, but the pics are real..

Lets assume there are *60* Dolphins and that when you mix a few drops of coloring dye in a glass the entire cup becomes that color..

I know the shade of red looks too bright, but a lot of pictures have visual tricks..

If Slice, Jim, and Lev were serious and thought the pics were real then there real.

Why would they make such an elaborate hoax to make the water seem reder, when those are obviously real dead dolphins.

[OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32]

Originally posted by merkwannabe@Oct 31 2003, 10:45 PM
Why would they make such an elaborate hoax to make the water seem reder, when those are obviously real dead dolphins.
So people would feel sorry and send more money to them&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[EXEcution]

999999999999999999999999999999999
is right&#33;
I am not as good with math but its definitely fake, and yes people can edit movies its not as hard as you think with the right tools&#33;

[Gun Element]

Can we all say that its interesting? I think it is :)

[JIMINATOR]

yes&#33;&#33; those were plastic dolphins in the boat and food coloring in the water&#33;&#33;&#33; forget the food coloring, they photoshopped the whole video&#33;&#33;&#33;

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Nov 1 2003, 02:50 PM
yes&#33;&#33; those were plastic dolphins in the boat and food coloring in the water&#33;&#33;&#33; forget the food coloring, they photoshopped the whole video&#33;&#33;&#33;
:wacko: You are clueless&#33; :P

[EXEcution]

OMFG I just saw that video&#33;
I can&#39;t believe you are convinsed by that short clip&#33;

[JIMINATOR]

hollywood&#33;

you need to change your name from DaRkAgent to HoLlyWoOd&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32]

I never said the dolphins were fake Jim. I said the water was fake.

[JIMINATOR]

whatever man. i searched on the net and I couldn&#39;t find anything
about the color of water based on blood concentration. they may have
used photographic filters to bring out the red, but i think the
video is authentic...

[OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32]

I have no doubt that the video is authentic. Fisherman in Japan do kill dolphins. But I am telling you, the hue of that red is much too bright.

But like you said, whatever.

[Slice]

Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight. They showed the exact video that was on the website. They didn&#39;t photoshop sh1t boys and girls, it is real. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by pretending this doesn&#39;t exsist.

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by Slice@Nov 5 2003, 12:19 AM
Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight. They showed the exact video that was on the website. They didn&#39;t photoshop sh1t boys and girls, it is real. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by pretending this doesn&#39;t exsist.
Frankly i don&#39;t care. It sux that these animals are dying but we&#39;ve done things far worse that this. Post some rainforest linky&#39;s and moovie see if people care....

[Slice]

Originally posted by DaRkAgent+Nov 5 2003, 12:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DaRkAgent @ Nov 5 2003, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Slice@Nov 5 2003, 12:19 AM
Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight.&nbsp; They showed the exact video that was on the website.&nbsp; They didn&#39;t photoshop sh1t boys and girls, it is real.&nbsp; Stop trying to make yourself feel better by pretending this doesn&#39;t exsist.
Frankly i don&#39;t care. It sux that these animals are dying but we&#39;ve done things far worse that this. Post some rainforest linky&#39;s and moovie see if people care.... [/b][/quote]
Um "we" haven&#39;t done sh1t. This is taking place in Japan. So shut your hole because you, as usual make as much sense as a broken phone booth. Secondly we are talking about highly sophisticated mammals not just animals. So let’s see, in your eyes. a tree has more value in life then a mammal. Right&#33; Get a clue after the electroshock treatment you need.…………………

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by Slice+Nov 5 2003, 12:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Slice @ Nov 5 2003, 12:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by DaRkAgent@Nov 5 2003, 12:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Slice@Nov 5 2003, 12:19 AM
Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight.* They showed the exact video that was on the website.* They didn&#39;t photoshop sh1t boys and girls, it is real.* Stop trying to make yourself feel better by pretending this doesn&#39;t exsist.
Frankly i don&#39;t care. It sux that these animals are dying but we&#39;ve done things far worse that this. Post some rainforest linky&#39;s and moovie see if people care....
Um "we" haven&#39;t done sh1t. This is taking place in Japan. So shut your hole because you, as usual make as much sense as a broken phone booth. Secondly we are talking about highly sophisticated mammals not just animals. So let’s see, in your eyes. a tree has more value in life then a mammal. Right&#33; Get a clue after the electroshock treatment you need.………………… [/b][/quote]
:lol: U so funy Slice&#33;
We as in people in general, so habitiat destruction has no effect on animals you say?
WRONG&#33; :devil:

[EXEcution]

Monkeys, our very own ancestors, live in rainforests and they are endangered.....could it be *gasp because of the trees people are cutting down.
Mionkey&#39;s first dolphins later&#33;
Fine i&#39;ll agree that its all real but, What the hell is highly sophisticated have to do with anything, sure dolphins can save drowing victims, but can they really do anything else that most other animals can?......they&#39;re animals and they ALL have the right to live. Only if we kill ALL the dolphins then it really matters cuz then thats thousands of years worth of adaptation and genetic code we have lost

[OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32]

Originally posted by Slice@Nov 5 2003, 04:19 AM
Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight.&nbsp; They showed the exact video that was on the website.
Oh OK, so since it was on the news, it has to be real, right??

Who do you think the Miami news got the video from? The same conservation agency that was there to begin with&#33;&#33; Now, if a news station was there and they shot the same scene from another angle, then I would be a believer.

Do you remember when that guy faked "Nessie&#39;s neck and head" from Loch Ness? That was ALL OVER the news and all of the papers throughout the world. We know now that it was in fact a fake.

The station said, "This video shot from [the conservation agency]..." correct? I can tell you that those pics and that short video are absolutely fake, in terms of the water&#39;s hue.

[Slice]

Originally posted by 9.99repeating^32+Nov 5 2003, 08:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (9.99repeating^32 @ Nov 5 2003, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Slice@Nov 5 2003, 04:19 AM
Actually this is indeed real and was reported on the news for Miami tonight.* They showed the exact video that was on the website.
Oh OK, so since it was on the news, it has to be real, right??

Who do you think the Miami news got the video from? The same conservation agency that was there to begin with&#33;&#33; Now, if a news station was there and they shot the same scene from another angle, then I would be a believer.

Do you remember when that guy faked "Nessie&#39;s neck and head" from Loch Ness? That was ALL OVER the news and all of the papers throughout the world. We know now that it was in fact a fake.

The station said, "This video shot from [the conservation agency]..." correct? I can tell you that those pics and that short video are absolutely fake, in terms of the water&#39;s hue. [/b][/quote]
Dude they gutted like 100 dolphins in that video, what the hell do you think the water would look like? Have you ever seen a shark devour a small 40 pound grouper or other type fish in real life? I have, and the area around my boat turns bloody. Dolphins are like 300 to 600 lbs average weight. Imagine how much blood that would be.

[JIMINATOR]

no slice, you don&#39;t have to imagernate, he has a mathermatikeral formulara to exshplain it all....

[Slice]

Originally posted by DaRkAgent@Nov 5 2003, 01:02 AM
Monkeys, our very own ancestors, live in rainforests and they are endangered.....could it be *gasp because of the trees people are cutting down.
Mionkey&#39;s first dolphins later&#33;
Fine i&#39;ll agree that its all real but, What the hell is highly sophisticated have to do with anything, sure dolphins can save drowing victims, but can they really do anything else that most other animals can?......they&#39;re animals and they ALL have the right to live. Only if we kill ALL the dolphins then it really matters cuz then thats thousands of years worth of adaptation and genetic code we have lost
As for you, the sh1t you talk is so thick I can barely read your posts anymore. You don&#39;t know a damn thing about dolphins or imo about anything else. Here is a quick education lesson. dolphins.org (http://dolphins.org) Click on Learn About Marine Mammals on the left near the bottom left hand side and educate yourself before you continue to make an ass of yourself. BTW, this facility is about a mile away from my home which I have been to numerous times. I also personally know and do business with the great people who run it.

[merkwannabe]

In all honesty, this is a more serious thread, so it should have more serious posts.. Jim is making his posts comical, as I try to, and that&#39;s good, but don&#39;t play this off.. I get angry when I see pictures of dolphins suffering to death..

[Fred Bear]

Originally posted by Sepra@Oct 29 2003, 04:37 PM
Another thought about the hunting seasons here where I live.&nbsp; People killing deer and other animals left and right.&nbsp; That&#39;s no different, and lots dont look at is as masacre.&nbsp; Also, it&#39;s no different from farms that kill animals for food for that matter.&nbsp; It&#39;s just that we dont see the bloodshead from the cows before we buy the ground meat in the supermarket.
whats wrong with killing deer? not all of them just some of them.

[JIMINATOR]

the way i see it is that it is a problem, but no more or less than many
facing us around the world. man individually may exhibit great
intelligence but collectively is a stupid vicious animal. you can view
this through the mass genocides happening continuously around the
world without end. we have had a huge technological revolution,
but still if your neighbor believes differently then that is a good
enough reason to gather your friends, kill him and his family. that
may sound harsh but that is the reality of man. we like to think
that we have over come that in america, but the reality there is
that we are merely the most efficient at killing other people.

as for deer, that is a mixed issue. they no longer have natural predators
(aside from cars) so if left unhunted they will overpopulate and
have problems. sounds sort of like man again...

[EXEcution]

Originally posted by Slice+Nov 5 2003, 11:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Slice @ Nov 5 2003, 11:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DaRkAgent@Nov 5 2003, 01:02 AM
Monkeys, our very own ancestors, live in rainforests and they are endangered.....could it be *gasp because of the trees people are cutting down.
Mionkey&#39;s first dolphins later&#33;
Fine i&#39;ll agree that its all real but, What the hell is highly sophisticated have to do with anything, sure dolphins can save drowing victims, but can they really do anything else that most other animals can?......they&#39;re animals and they ALL have the right to live. Only if we kill ALL the dolphins then it really matters cuz then thats thousands of years worth of adaptation and genetic code we have lost
As for you, the sh1t you talk is so thick I can barely read your posts anymore. You don&#39;t know a damn thing about dolphins or imo about anything else. Here is a quick education lesson. dolphins.org (http://dolphins.org) Click on Learn About Marine Mammals on the left near the bottom left hand side and educate yourself before you continue to make an ass of yourself. BTW, this facility is about a mile away from my home which I have been to numerous times. I also personally know and do business with the great people who run it. [/b][/quote]
there is a difference between not understanding and just being plain ignorant.....so what have you done for the dolphins slice?

[Fred Bear]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Nov 5 2003, 11:52 PM
as for deer, that is a mixed issue. they no longer have natural predators
(aside from cars) so if left unhunted they will overpopulate and
have problems. sounds sort of like man again...
ohhhh trust me Jim deer have a natural predator. It&#39;s called Fred Bear&#33; :jammin:

[Sepra]

Originally posted by Fred Bear+Nov 5 2003, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fred Bear @ Nov 5 2003, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sepra@Oct 29 2003, 04:37 PM
Another thought about the hunting seasons here where I live.* People killing deer and other animals left and right.*&nbsp; That&#39;s no different, and lots dont look at is as masacre.*&nbsp; Also, it&#39;s no different from farms that kill animals for food for that matter.* It&#39;s just that we dont see the bloodshead from the cows before we buy the ground meat in the supermarket.
whats wrong with killing deer? not all of them just some of them. [/b][/quote]
Nothing really, I was just making a point. Jag hunts also. It makes me sad :bawling: but it&#39;s also a way of life and is food to eat.

[Die Hard]

Er...couldn&#39;t wait to read every post. So
sorry if this has already been said.

Japanese did not sign the world treaty so they can
and do legally kill Whales including Dolphins. Some
European countries like The Faroe Islands also.

The pic is real.

[Fred Bear]

Sepra, it is sad but it is the circle of life. We just cannot be greedy. I only take what me and my family can eat. Trust me none of it goes to waste. I want Michigans deer herd to be here forever. I hope that the flipper killing is done humanly and ethicaly if it has to be done at all.