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JIMINATOR
12-29-2003, 07:25 AM
damn I like it!!! was able to back up my main garbage!!!
next is the pron!!!
with deals, dvds are @ $1 each!!! :jammin:
of course that is still 10x what cdrs cost, but they hold 6.7x the data,
so it comes out pretty close.... :thumbs:

Death-Dude
12-30-2003, 05:37 PM
I'm jealous, and I've been avoiding the itch to get one, since they seem to be dropping. However, they kinda popped back up to $100 or so for specials like the Lite-On, and the TDK was a bit more. The ability to do a clean install, with updates, and installing most of your favorites apps and games, and then backing it up to a restore disk with Drive Image or the like is very appealing! Heck, you'll be able to back-up your pr0n in only a few disks! :w00t:

Fantum309
01-10-2004, 06:38 PM
Sorry, I don't mean to bring up an "old" thread, but, I am seriously interested in getting a DVD writer, but, I don't know what all this +/- stuff is all about. From what I do understand is, you want both so your going to be compatable with whatever anyone else uses.

All I want to be able to do is "ghost" my hard drive like was talked about in the first post, but then again, I want to be able to record "home movies" and such onto DVD so I can "loan" them out and everyone would be able to playback on their home DVD players and computers.


HELP! HELP! HELP! I need some advice.

Name brand is fine, and I am not too worried about cost. Just send me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

JIMINATOR
01-10-2004, 07:32 PM
ok, it goes like this, there are 5 types of media
dvd-r
dvd+r
dvd-rw
dvd+rw
dvd-ram

don't worry about dvd-ram, chances are that you won't see it
the formats are listed in terms of compatibility, old dvds will only
be able to read the first format, newer ones should be able to
read the top 4. 'real' dvds have 2 layers, and can store some 9.4
gigs of movie data. data dvds only have one layer and are limited
to 4.7 gigs. There are programs however that can burn movies
onto 2 dvds so this can be gotten around... The - formats are more
for audio visual stuff. The + formats are better for data. I have gotten
dvd+r disks, they write the fastest. (The +rw are going to be 2.5x or so)
The media you get will also limit the speed of the burner, you need 4x
media for a 4x unit, 8x media for an 8x, so you may not be able
to find media for an 8x unit. Look in the sundays paper for rebates or
2-fer offers. You should be able to get media at about $1/disk. I picked
up a sony unit and am pleased with it. Rebates suck, but they bring down
the prices.

Lastly, I would use the +R format. I think it is the fastest to record, good
for data, and most dvd readers should be able to read it.

Fantum309
01-10-2004, 08:14 PM
Thanks Jim, you are very helpful. That answers alot of my questions, but what about brand? Does that really matter? Should I stick with "named" brands? I have been told about pioneer, plextor, lite-on, and now, Sony, to name a few!

<<Hybrid>>
01-10-2004, 08:21 PM
DVD recorders are so damn expensive. DVD-ROM costs nothing here, same as 40x fast CD-ROM

Fred Bear
01-10-2004, 08:47 PM
I want the lite-on one

Rivers
01-10-2004, 09:30 PM
I don&#39;t know about DVD burners but as far as other drives go Lite-on has been the best to me and I&#39;ve worked/had Sony, HP, Pioneer. The Sony actually gave me the most guff. :blink:

Fantum309
01-11-2004, 08:09 PM
Here is what I got today, what do you think?
Pacific Digital™ U-30201 Internal IDE DVD Dual Format DVD+/-RW Drive

Pacific Digital&#39;s U-30201 8x Dual Format DVD writer supports both DVD+RW and DVD-RW media. This DVD writer provides a complete solution for data backup, storage and distribution — from sharing films and music to archiving a massive 4.7GB of content on one DVD disc. A multifunction optical drive, the Dual Format burner (with 8x DVD write speed and 4x rewrite speed), also operates as a 40x24x40x CD-RW and 12x DVD-ROM drive (all are maximum speeds).
The Dual Format support lets you create discs for playback in virtually all DVD video players and DVD-ROM drives, with no compromise in performance. The U-30201 is fast and reliable, recording one hour of DVD video on DVD-R or DVD+R media in just 15 minutes. Flexibility, performance and value all in one.

Product Details
type CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD+R; DVD+RW; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD-ROM
storage capacity 4.7GB; 700MB
CD write speed 40x
CD rewrite speed 24x
DVD write speed 8x
DVD rewrite speed 4x
connector/interface EIDE/MMC; IDE (ATAPI)
internal/external internal
operating system compatibility Windows 95: Windows 98: Windows Me; Windows 2000; Windows XP; Windows NT 4.0
media included 1 DVD+R disc
software included CD/DVD recording software
manufacturer Pacific Digital
model name U-30201

Dissectional
01-11-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by <<Hybrid>>@Jan 10 2004, 03:21 PM
DVD recorders are so damn expensive. DVD-ROM costs nothing here, same as 40x fast CD-ROM
Dude, someone had the Sony DRU-510 which burns r+and r- for 92 american&#33;

If I had the need...I would have jumped on it&#33;

C2H5OH Guy
01-11-2004, 10:16 PM
I use the NEC 1300 4x DVD -/+ R burner and its just GREAT (to backup pr0n :P )

Fantum309
01-11-2004, 10:38 PM
These are the only Sony&#39;s I found&#33;

Office Depot

Sony 24x10x32x Internal CD-RW & DVD Multi-Format Drive
Item Number List Price Our Price
614809 &#036;349.99


Sony DRX510ULX DVD+RW/-RW & CD-RW External Drive
Item Number List Price Our Price
603667 &#036;349.99


Best Buy
Sony 8x Internal DVD±RW/±R/CD-RW Drive
Model: DRU530A &#036;279.99


Circuit City
Sony 8x Internal DVD+/-R/RW Drive
Brand/Model: SON DRU530A &#036;189.99

JIMINATOR
01-11-2004, 11:21 PM
hi fantum, that&#39;s fine. the sony&#39;s were on sale earlier with rebates, too late
now, probably no biggie anyway. I don&#39;t know much about pacific digital,
but i imagine that it will probably be a good drive. hopefully
it will include some decent software. that may be the more important part.
at 8x it has fast potential, although you need 8x media. burn a few
disks, and if all is well, then no problem... :thumbs:

Fantum309
01-11-2004, 11:44 PM
I got a 2 for 1 pack of DVD+R&#39;s for 89.99 (packs of 50 each) and just realized they are 4x. I should still be able to use them, but this chart on the side of the boxes confuses me a little. Can you cypher it for me?

I did notice the DVD Ram and I am not concerned with that. (referring to your previous post)

JIMINATOR
01-12-2004, 01:38 AM
uh, it just indicates what they are compatible with.
with a +/- r/rw drive you are good for anything.
you have to remember, with this stupid industry, there
are 5 different formats, and most drives can only write
a couple.

Fantum309
01-12-2004, 03:11 AM
Okay, thanks. I&#39;ll let you know how it works out. Thanks for everything&#33; :thumbs:

Fred Bear
01-14-2004, 04:21 PM
I still think that I want the Sony - DRU 510 or a Lite on. From what I understand some DVD burners dont like some brands of media.