No One's Perfect

[Phoenix]

All you Bush supporters please don't flip out, this is just for a good laugh.


> George W. Bush
>
> The White House, USA
>
> EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
>
> LAW ENFORCEMENT: I was arrested in Kennebunkport,
> Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of
> alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my
> driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas
> driving record has been "lost" and is not available.
>
> MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and
> went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about
> my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
> avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
>
> COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was
> a cheerleader.
>
> PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for US Congress and lost.
> I began my career in the oil business in Midland,
> Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't
> find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt
> shortly after I sold all my stock.
>
> I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a
> sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.
> With the help of my father and our right-wing friends
> in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I
> was elected governor of Texas.
>
> ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR: I changed Texas pollution
> laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas
> the most polluted state in the Union. During my
> tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most
> smog-ridden city in America.
>
> I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the
> tune of billions in borrowed money. I set the record
> for the most executions by any governor in American
> history.
>
> With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida,
> and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I
> became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
>
> ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I invaded and occupied
> two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per
> week.
>
> I spent the US surplus and effectively bankrupted the
> US Treasury.
>
> I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit
> in US history.
>
> I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies
> filed in any 12-month period.
>
> I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the
> history of the US stock market.
>
> I am the first President in US history to enter office
> with a criminal record.
>
> I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in
> any one-year period.
>
> After taking off the entire month of August, I
> presided over the worst security failure in US
> history.
>
> I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical
> Bunker Buster," a WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction).
>
> In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our
> reasons for attacking Iraq, and then blamed the lies
> on our British friends.
>
> I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips
> by a US President.
>
> In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans
> lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
>
> I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a
> 12-month period.
>
> I appointed more convicted criminals to administration
> than any President in US history.
>
> I set the record for least number of press conferences
> of any President since the advent of television.
>
> I presided over the biggest energy crisis in US
> history and refused to intervene when corruption
> involving the oil industry was revealed.
>
> I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US
> history.
>
> I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and
> support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops
> and their families -- in wartime.
>
> I have set the all-time record for most people
> worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public
> venues (15 million people), shattering the record for
> protest against any person in the history of mankind.
>
> I've broken more international treaties than any
> President in US history.
>
> I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the
> richest of any administration in US history. My
> "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron
> oil tanker named after her.
>
> I am the first President in US history to order an unprovoked,
> preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
> did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of US
> citizens, and the world community.
>
> I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the
> largest bureaucracy in the history of the United
> States government.
>
> I am the first President in US history to have the
> United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
>
> I withdrew the US from the World Court of Law.
>
> I refused to allow inspector's access to US "prisoners
> of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by
> the Geneva Convention.
>
> I am the first President in history to refuse United
> Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US
> election).
>
> I am the all-time US and world record-holder for
> receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
>
> My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of
> my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the
> largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in US history. My political party
> used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success
> with the US Supreme Court during my election decision.
>
> I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton
> against investigation or prosecution. More time and
> money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky
> affair than has been spent investigating one of the
> biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
>
> I garnered the most sympathy for the US after the
> World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later
> made the US the most hated country in the world, the
> largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
>
> I am the first President in history to have a majority
> of Europeans
>
> (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world
> peace and security.
>
> I changed the US policy to allow convicted criminals
> to be awarded government contracts.
>
> I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring
> Osama Bin Laden to justice.
>
> RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
>
> All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now
> in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for
> public view.
>
> All records of SEC investigations into my insider
> trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in
> secrecy and unavailable for public view.
>
> All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-president,
> attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and
> unavailable for public review.
>
> Please consider my experience when voting in 2004.

[Speedsweeper]

Good god, where do you find the time to type this stuff???

:blink:

[JIMINATOR]

oh come on chris, it is a copy/paste, takes a second.
the problem with it is that some of the info is probably correct,
others may be exaggerated or slanted, and some may be false.
who knows and who is going to research it?
anyways if anyone wants more info, snopes is always a good site -
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/resume.asp

and they refer to the following linkes for more info:
http://www.crossbearer.com/resume/The_Truth.pdf
http://idontfeelsogood.blogspot.com/2003_0...od_archive.html (http://idontfeelsogood.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_idontfeelsogood_archive.html)

[Sacrifice]

bush = :down: :loser:

[Jesse James]

Originally posted by Sacrifice@Feb 17 2004, 05:55 PM
bush = :down: :loser:
ditto

Bush is a :loser: He needs to leave and never come back. John Kerry can do better than him. :thumbs:

[NoS]

Originally posted by Chris@Feb 17 2004, 02:44 PM
Good god, where do you find the time to type this stuff???

:blink:
wow :wacko: i didnt even finish reading it that was just to long man

[NoS]

he is making us look terrible

[NoS]

he is making us look terrible

[NoS]

man he making be a shame of him

[NoS]

i wish they wouldnt lie

[NoS]

this is their face :ha:

[NoS]

arrggg

[NoS]

dawm liers

[Jesse James]

Hey, save that for the spam thread.

[UncleSam]

:rofl: was a good laugh tho....

and I wonder how much was true, sounds like quite a bit? :hmmm:

[solid snake295]

lol, what a winner :rofl:

[PimpDaddy]

I would say something about you Bush Bashers, but then I would be the one who isn't allowed an opinion. You are easily swayed I must say.

[Pure_Evil]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Feb 18 2004, 08:16 AM
I would say something about you Bush Bashers, but then I would be the one who isn't allowed an opinion. You are easily swayed I must say.
Easilly swayed, geeze Pimp....... maybe we could market those Bush Blinders you have on to help boost the econamy???

[PimpDaddy]

Originally posted by Pure_Evil+Feb 18 2004, 09:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pure_Evil @ Feb 18 2004, 09:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PimpDaddy@Feb 18 2004, 08:16 AM
I would say something about you Bush Bashers, but then I would be the one who isn&#39;t allowed an opinion.&nbsp; You are easily swayed I must say.
Easilly swayed, geeze Pimp....... maybe we could market those Bush Blinders you have on to help boost the econamy??? [/b][/quote]
good idea :rofl::thumbs:

[PimpDaddy]

I&#39;d say we were coming out of the Clinton caused recession rather nicely. Fastest growth rate in over 2 decades. (Reagan)

[Pure_Evil]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Feb 18 2004, 09:17 AM
I&#39;d say we were coming out of the Clinton caused recession rather nicely. Fastest growth rate in over 2 decades. (Reagan)
:rofl: :rofl: that&#39;s a good one Pimp&#33;&#33;&#33; 7-1/2 years of prosparity and all you see is the last 3 months :rofl:

and in 3 years, Bush admin just made it worse :rofl:

let me guess, if the republicans lose, and the democrats, or whoever wins, turns it around, the credit will go to Bush???? :rofl:

I bet those Bush blinders have the same effect as LSD :rofl:

OMG&#33;&#33; too funny&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :rofl:

Dude, you should be writing for Sat. Night Live :thumbs:

[long-island-ice-tea]

Bush did this to often = :bandhead: :bandhead: :bandhead:

SO he is a bit :wacko: and a big :loser:
maybe he is a :devil: always when I see him I have to :bawling: or I feel :mad: we should do this to him and :doh: and say good bye :tounge: :wave:

[Pure_Evil]

I can&#39;t ever say Bush is a :loser:


<-- is a :loser:


Bush has a nice familly that sticks together, and a great pension for his retirement in 10 months from now. He&#39;s done well for himself and his familly, I respect that.

I just don&#39;t like the way his administration has taken care of the USA. But as a person, no way a :loser:

[JIMINATOR]

i think that bush has been bad for the country and the economy.
Our economy is driven by perception and not reality. With him
coming into office, the perception was that things would become
bad, people believed it and it came to pass. Certainly a lot of
his policies suck, and are anti-environment, etc. The garbage
cleanup for his dad too is a little much. Would things have been
different with Al Gore? I think so. You see it is the little people
that drive the economy. Maybe they are stupid. But if you take
a perception that we are in a recession, then people start
holding back the money, and soon we are in a recession,
and people tighten up more. so development stops, stocks
start dropping, etc. I think with a democrat in office you will
probably have more consumer confidence, and that would lead
to other and better things. Who doesn&#39;t really matter. If you
look at the people running for office, they are often very moderate
and have very similar policies.

[PimpDaddy]

Originally posted by Pure_Evil+Feb 18 2004, 11:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pure_Evil &#064; Feb 18 2004, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PimpDaddy@Feb 18 2004, 09:17 AM
I&#39;d say we were coming out of the Clinton caused recession rather nicely.* Fastest growth rate in over 2 decades. (Reagan)
:rofl: :rofl: that&#39;s a good one Pimp&#33;&#33;&#33; 7-1/2 years of prosparity and all you see is the last 3 months :rofl:

and in 3 years, Bush admin just made it worse :rofl:

let me guess, if the republicans lose, and the democrats, or whoever wins, turns it around, the credit will go to Bush???? :rofl:

I bet those Bush blinders have the same effect as LSD :rofl:

OMG&#33;&#33; too funny&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :rofl:

Dude, you should be writing for Sat. Night Live :thumbs: [/b][/quote]

:rofl:* :rofl:* that&#39;s a good one Pimp&#33;&#33;&#33; 7-1/2 years of prosparity and all you see is the last 3 months* :rofl:
Pure...chill man. You were the one that chose to bash the "bush economy"

maybe we could market those Bush Blinders you have on to help boost the econamy??? All I said was we are currently in the fastest growing economy in over 20 years. A fact that you want to overlook.
Also...

let me guess, if the republicans lose, and the democrats, or whoever wins, turns it around, the credit will go to Bush????* :rofl:
I didn&#39;t say that nor imply that.

This one doesn&#39;t deserve a response.

I bet those Bush blinders have the same effect as LSD* :rofl:


Dude, you should be writing for Sat. Night Live* :thumbs:
Just plain disrespectful.

Geeesh, it&#39;s so dam difficult to debate in these forums without getting attacked. It&#39;s pathetic. The Latin term is Ad Hominom which is attacking the messenger and not the topic.
Later

[Pure_Evil]

:rofl: <--implies Humor

you should chill as well

[PimpDaddy]

You&#39;re right, I should. The politicians got us right where they want us. Uninformed,ignorant or pissed off.
I know what :rofl: implies. I see little humor right now - sorry.

[Pure_Evil]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Feb 18 2004, 03:38 PM
You&#39;re right, I should. The politicians got us right where they want us. Uninformed,ignorant or pissed off.
I know what :rofl: implies. I see little humor right now - sorry.
It&#39;s hard to keep informed when there is no real clear info source. they prefere us angry and scared.

That other pollitical thread we got going was good :thumbs:

What happened to Thundarr??? :rofl:



I&#39;m not ignorant, I&#39;m just a :loser:


:rofl:

[EXEcution]

Whats the definition of :loser:

[Pure_Evil]

Originally posted by .:EXEcution:.@Feb 18 2004, 03:50 PM
Whats the definition of :loser:
that&#39;s easy&#33;

<--- :loser:

just ask around, they&#39;ll say " yep. Pure&#39;s a loser&#33;"

[Pure_Evil]

If I&#39;m not handy for example, try:

loser


<jargon> An unexpectedly bad situation, program, programmer,
or person. Someone who habitually loses. (Even winners can
lose occasionally). Someone who knows not and knows not that
he knows not. Emphatic forms are "real loser", "total loser",
and "complete loser" (but not **"moby loser", which would be a
contradiction in terms).

[Thundarr]

I must agree with Pure on this one, Clinton&#39;s presidency produced one of the most robust economies the US has had and people blame him for it sinking the last couple months of his presidency... But no one gives hime credit for the rest of his term...:WTF: :hmmm: Sounds to me like the sinking was in anticipation for the incoming new Pres... When a President has reached his term limit, can you really blame him for not being as effective his last few months??? Let&#39;s be realistic, they have the term "Lame Duck" for a reason...

BTW, did anyone bother to go to that idontfeelsogood BLOG link on Snopes? (I LOVE Snopes.com&#33;&#33;&#33;) It lists many, many links to support the statements made in Bush&#39;s "resume"...

Pimp, how could the economy NOT grow after being sunk so far into the shi**er, it had almost nowhere to go but up... :oooo:

Pure, you&#39;re no :loser: &#33;

[::: DARK PSI :::]

I am still waiting for this so-called "Small Business Tax Relief" plan that Bush was to take into effect. Last time I checked, small business entrepreneurs are still getting raped by 40-45% in taxes.

[Burn the Witch]

Personally I doubt Bush is much of a loser or particularly stupid...on account of the fact he got into office, but its true that most of mainland Europe have a pretty low opinion of America......luckily we from experiences in the 20th century with Hitler, Stalin, Musso, Franco etc. etc. that one mans/governments view certainly doesnt reflect the view of a nation (although I do not compare Bush to those aformentioned dictators).

[PJ'l_Master]

im only 18 but to me it seems that Bush has made the same mistake that his father did with the first gulf war...he ignored the American economy, and that will definatley hurt his re-election chances, but everyone seems to forget how elquently he handled 9/11. I dont mean to offend anyone but if Gore would have been in office we probably wouldnt have done mcuh about it, other than complain to all the other countries and making a pitty party for ourselves. I do, however believe that Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to finish what his dad started in Iraq. That is wrong, and selfish, there is no doubt about that. I do agree with pure about him personally, he seems like he would be a cool guy. As for the tax cuts, i wont even notice them, as i dont make enough too, but i do feel that he is trying to make those changes, slow as they may seem. To be honest i dont really have and governmental party loyalties, and i dont really care if Bush gets re-elected but i hope that its someone better and someone who doesnt make the same mistakes that Bush did, but the American ppl do need to realize that no one is perfect, and that your job title doesnt make you perfect by default.

[PJ'l_Master]

hey Pimp...smile man :D

[JIMINATOR]

lol, poll released today indicates both democrat front runners are leading bush....

[Pure_Evil]

Here&#39;s another P.E. bitch&#33;

As a vollunteer FF, I get a &#036;1000 tax credit on my property tax, it&#39;s a plan local governement installed to encourage home owners to vollunteer. :jammin: So istead of &#036;1900 tax on my house, I was only to pay &#036;900 :thumbs: all I had to do was make 65% of the calls on my shift and pay my taxes. It&#39;s a great plan seeing that the cost of paid FF&#39;s is close to &#036;100,000 a year if you include benefits and comp insurance.

But whoa&#33; wait a minute says Mr Tax man&#33; After the first year, the irs decided to tax this credit :blink: So now instead of a tax bill that&#39;s &#036;1000 less the town has to send me a check with taxes etc. taken out, which brings it down to &#036;700 AND I have to claim that as income at the end of the year :bandhead:


:thumbs: way to go Big Bro :thumbs:

Lets find another way to stick it in deap to those who contribute to making their community safer ;)

[PJ'l_Master]

Originally posted by Pure_Evil@Feb 19 2004, 09:50 PM
Here&#39;s another P.E. bitch&#33;

As a vollunteer FF, I get a &#036;1000 tax credit on my property tax, it&#39;s a plan local governement installed to encourage home owners to vollunteer. :jammin: So istead of &#036;1900 tax on my house, I was only to pay &#036;900 :thumbs: all I had to do was make 65% of the calls on my shift and pay my taxes. It&#39;s a great plan seeing that the cost of paid FF&#39;s is close to &#036;100,000 a year if you include benefits and comp insurance.

But whoa&#33; wait a minute says Mr Tax man&#33; After the first year, the irs decided to tax this credit :blink: So now instead of a tax bill that&#39;s &#036;1000 less the town has to send me a check with taxes etc. taken out, which brings it down to &#036;700 AND I have to claim that as income at the end of the year :bandhead:


:thumbs: way to go Big Bro :thumbs:

Lets find another way to stick it in deap to those who contribute to making their community safer ;)
up to the hilt

[PimpDaddy]

Originally posted by PJ&#39;l_Master@Feb 19 2004, 03:52 PM
hey Pimp...smile man :D
http://home.comcast.net/~running2xs/barf.gif

[PJ'l_Master]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy+Feb 20 2004, 12:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PimpDaddy @ Feb 20 2004, 12:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PJ&#39;l_Master@Feb 19 2004, 03:52 PM
hey Pimp...smile man&nbsp; :D
http://home.comcast.net/~running2xs/barf.gif [/b][/quote]
sorry for tryin to help i guess :huh:

i hope you can get past whatever the he&#33;&#33; your problem is :hmmm:

I was just tryin to be nice :WTF:

[ME BIGGD01]

people people people.....

they all suck. thi si the first time i am not going to vote because it&#39;s a losing battle. kust rip the gov&#39;t off as much as you can because we are all f&#39;d. anyone say&#39;s well it&#39;s the best gov&#39;t in the world, i say bs. i am sick when i hear all the counties, the city of ny etc etc claiming they need to cut the budgets because there is not enough money. where the hell is the money we all pay. screw them all and the hell with policies. i would sell information to a terrorist if i knew they were going to just kill the people in charge.

death to their families&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


p.s. if some of you feel i am wrong, send me 5 bucks and i will sell you my vote :P


p.s. it&#39;s not waht this cou8ntry can do for you, it&#39;s what you can do for it--kennedy, who deserved that bullet :thumbs: i mean enough is enough&#33;&#33; give back to the taxpayers and take care of the problems here. damn kids are not being educated like they should etc etc, and corporate america is giving our jobs to other countries. ahhhhhh forget it.

[MR. SLiK]

Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Feb 19 2004, 09:19 PM
people people people.....

they all suck.&nbsp; thi si the first time i am not going to vote because it&#39;s a losing battle.&nbsp; kust rip the gov&#39;t off as much as you can because we are all f&#39;d.&nbsp; anyone say&#39;s well it&#39;s the best gov&#39;t in the world, i say bs.&nbsp; i am sick when i hear all the counties, the city of ny etc etc claiming they need to cut the budgets because there is not enough money.&nbsp; where the hell is the money we all pay.&nbsp; screw them all and the hell with policies.&nbsp; i would sell information to a terrorist if i knew they were going to just kill the people in charge.

death to their families&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


p.s.&nbsp; if some of you feel i am wrong, send me 5 bucks and i will sell you my vote :P


p.s. it&#39;s not waht this cou8ntry can do for you, it&#39;s what you can do for it--kennedy, who deserved that bullet :thumbs:&nbsp; i mean enough is enough&#33;&#33;&nbsp; give back to the taxpayers and take care of the problems here.&nbsp; damn kids are not being educated like they should etc etc, and corporate america is giving our jobs to other countries.&nbsp; ahhhhhh forget it.
whoa dude...

are you a reactionary?

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Feb 20 2004, 05:19 AM
kennedy, who deserved that bullet :thumbs:
Ummmm....

[ME BIGGD01]

Originally posted by MR. SLiK+Feb 20 2004, 05:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MR. SLiK @ Feb 20 2004, 05:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ME BIGGD01@Feb 19 2004, 09:19 PM
people people people.....

they all suck.* thi si the first time i am not going to vote because it&#39;s a losing battle.* kust rip the gov&#39;t off as much as you can because we are all f&#39;d.* anyone say&#39;s well it&#39;s the best gov&#39;t in the world, i say bs.* i am sick when i hear all the counties, the city of ny etc etc claiming they need to cut the budgets because there is not enough money.* where the hell is the money we all pay.* screw them all and the hell with policies.* i would sell information to a terrorist if i knew they were going to just kill the people in charge.

death to their families&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


p.s.* if some of you feel i am wrong, send me 5 bucks and i will sell you my vote :P


p.s. it&#39;s not waht this cou8ntry can do for you, it&#39;s what you can do for it--kennedy, who deserved that bullet :thumbs:*&nbsp; i mean enough is enough&#33;&#33;* give back to the taxpayers and take care of the problems here.* damn kids are not being educated like they should etc etc, and corporate america is giving our jobs to other countries.* ahhhhhh forget it.
whoa dude...

are you a reactionary? [/b][/quote]
yes :thumbs:

[Nitro]

Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Feb 20 2004, 12:19 AM
--kennedy, who deserved that bullet :thumbs:
:unsure: :blink:

[PimpDaddy]

The strange thing about Kennedy MeBigg is the fact that he GOT IT when it came to taxes. His bumbling drunken accident prone brother Teddy ("the swimmer") should take a page from his brothers book. When you lower taxes,(which for those of you who don&#39;t have a freaking clue is money that is taken away from you) the government actually gains revenue (again for those of you above -revenue would be the money that your crooked A&#036;S politicians spend on such worthwhile projects as funding the artists who piss in a jar and throw a cross in it and call it art).

[Pure_Evil]

where do you view piss on the wall art?


you know what, at least I hope it&#39;s American artists&#33; I&#39;m sick to death of sending money to Iraq and other nations.

and to whoever it was who said Bush Jr. is making the same mistakes Sr. did, hit the nail right on the head&#33; It seams the Bush family worries about the world and loses sight of Americans. :(


thi si the first time i am not going to vote because it&#39;s a losing battle.* kust rip the gov&#39;t off as much as you can because we are all f&#39;d

I felt the same way, but I became more active in my local government because there at least you have popular vote and mine does count 100%

As far as this Presidential election goes, even though I feel it&#39;s a pathetic system, I&#39;m going to cast a vote against Bush just for the sake of my consience. I don&#39;t know if it&#39;ll be for Kerry, Nader, Sharpton, or if I write in Jesse Ventura just because I think he&#39;s one of the few pollitions who could shake up this f-ed up system.

That&#39;s right, I&#39;d love to see Ventura giving a state of the union address in a leather jacket and wearing a bandana, because even though he makes mistakes, he&#39;s one of us&#33; That&#39;s what we need, a representative of "the people" in office, not what we have now.

[goblinwarrior2004]

i like that im at school and im on the internet@&#33;&#33;@&#33;@&#33;@&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;@

[Pure_Evil]

Originally posted by goblinwarrior2004@Feb 20 2004, 12:10 PM
i like that im at school and im on the internet@&#33;&#33;@&#33;@&#33;@&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;@
Thank you for that riviting pollitical insight :thumbs:

[Panagiotis]

I persoanlly agree with Pimp Daddy.

President Bush is the man&#33;&#33; Thank God Al Gore was not elected president, bet you we would have not gone after the terriost like Bush did and we would have had more attacks on our soil.

If you know your facts about Clinton, he had every chance to get Ben Ladin but he chose to ignore it. He was to busy playing with cigars in the White House.

I have a few friends/Clients over seas and they really thought the White House was a joke with Clinton. They now tell me they fear Bush for he does what he says he will do.

Jim, Bro, you are wrong about the economy, it started booming right at the end of the Bush Senior term and then Clinton got the glory for it.

Look at the facts from the past, any time after a war the economy booms as it will do now. We have had the best growth in 20 years. It only last 10 years or so before the inflation gets it and things go to crap again.

All should be greatful with Bush, look at the intrest rates, the lowest in 50 years.

Also I can&#39;t remember the last time in the past I could go to a car dealership and get 10k of the sticker price and 3% intrest for 5 years.Did that on my new 2003 duramax diesel truck.

I use to be a democrap but they showed me they were just tax raiser and whimps when it comes to standing up for their countries and freedom.

My 2 cents worth.

Also the polls don&#39;t mean sqaut, they had look what at at WI this week at the Democrap polls. They had John Ewards at 17% but they were all shocked when he got 40% or so, not exactly sure on the polls.

Bush will be President again in 2004, the Clintons will see to that for they want Hilliray to run in 2008, God help us all.

[PimpDaddy]

HOLY &#036;HIT &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Another conservative. Shoot his a&#036;&#036;

[JIMINATOR]

Originally posted by Panagiotis@Feb 20 2004, 02:25 PM
I persoanlly agree with Pimp Daddy.

President Bush is the man&#33;&#33; Thank God Al Gore was not elected president, bet you we would have not gone after the terriost like Bush did and we would have had more attacks on our soil.

If you know your facts about Clinton, he had every chance to get Ben Ladin but he chose to ignore it. He was to busy playing with cigars in the White House.

I have a few friends/Clients over seas and they really thought the White House was a joke with Clinton. They now tell me they fear Bush for he does what he says he will do.

Jim, Bro, you are wrong about the economy, it started booming right at the end of the Bush Senior term and then Clinton got the glory for it.

Look at the facts from the past, any time after a war the economy booms as it will do now. We have had the best growth in 20 years. It only last 10 years or so before the inflation gets it and things go to crap again.

All should be greatful with Bush, look at the intrest rates, the lowest in 50 years.

Also I can&#39;t remember the last time in the past I could go to a car dealership and get 10k of the sticker price and 3% intrest for 5 years.Did that on my new 2003 duramax diesel truck.

I use to be a democrap but they showed me they were just tax raiser and whimps when it comes to standing up for their countries and freedom.

My 2 cents worth.

Also the polls don&#39;t mean sqaut, they had look what at at WI this week at the Democrap polls. They had John Ewards at 17% but they were all shocked when he got 40% or so, not exactly sure on the polls.

Bush will be President again in 2004, the Clintons will see to that for they want Hilliray to run in 2008, God help us all.
hmm, well, our current leadership is a joke. people think of bush as a warmongering moron, not necessarily a good view.
the economy pretty much drags with republicans in office. with bush
again, you probably have the same to look forward to. No confidence
in the president, no consumer confidence, more of the sameness.

The thing about war boosting the economy? that used to be true, no
more. we are blowing huge wads of cash for this stupid iraq crap,
much of the money is going overseas to support the military there,
and here it isn&#39;t helping anyone except the military contractors, and they
are a small part of the economy any more. Meanwhile we are getting
this hugeass deficit that will have to be eventually paid off.

does anyone remember the days of having a balanced budget?
How come republicans just cannot do that?

Agreed that polls don&#39;t mean anything, but the results are interesting.

[ME BIGGD01]

i voted for bush his first term and although he was better than gore, i feel he failed with alot of things and for that, i he has lost me as a supporter.

as for jesse ventura :thumbs: that guy rocks and i agree with you pure :thumbs:

for the people by the people :thumbs:

[ME BIGGD01]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Feb 20 2004, 10:30 AM
The strange thing about Kennedy MeBigg is the fact that he GOT IT when it came to taxes. His bumbling drunken accident prone brother Teddy ("the swimmer") should take a page from his brothers book. When you lower taxes,(which for those of you who don&#39;t have a freaking clue is money that is taken away from you) the government actually gains revenue (again for those of you above -revenue would be the money that your crooked A&#036;S politicians spend on such worthwhile projects as funding the artists who piss in a jar and throw a cross in it and call it art).
one thing about lowering taxes is that most of the taxes should not even be taxes. they make up new taxes by the day. sorry, i believe in the constitution. if more of america would fight for the true laws and defend their constitution, we wouldnt be in this mess. since we are in this mess, there is another thing in the constitution that gives us the right for a new gov&#39;t. do any of you understand what the purpose of the constitution is?

[Panagiotis]

Well guys what it really comes down to is that all politicians do NOT give a rats a&#036;&#036; about any of us.

Now days its really a power thing for all of them. Just think to be president of the USA or a politician period.

Look at all the benefits that come with it.

Do you guys really think that Bush, Kerry or Edwards really care about us?

The average Joe cannot ever be president unless you have Millions to spend and that sometimes gets you nothing, like Ross Pero and so on.

The USA some what has gone to crap.

[PimpDaddy]

Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Feb 20 2004, 03:48 PM

The thing about war boosting the economy? that used to be true, no
more. we are blowing huge wads of cash for this stupid iraq crap,
much of the money is going overseas to support the military there,
and here it isn&#39;t helping anyone except the military contractors, and they
are a small part of the economy any more. Meanwhile we are getting
this hugeass deficit that will have to be eventually paid off.

does anyone remember the days of having a balanced budget?
How come republicans just cannot do that?

Agreed that polls don&#39;t mean anything, but the results are interesting. [/quote]
Very possible Jim that you&#39;re right about blowing huge wads of cash on a country (Cripe - a whole stinking region) that has been living in the stone age for centuries. My opinion is that it is a gamble on the current administrations part, that the money invested will be repaid 10 fold, in the same manner as the money we spent on Japan and Germany. (NOTE: this is an opinion you pin heads)

Jim, it was a republican lead congress and senate that dragged a kicking and screaming democratic president to a balanced budget.... but the reality is always the president at the time will get the credit. (or no credit if there is a deficit)
The current deficit is mostly the result of the war and fighting terrorism and personally, I would rather try to protect our freedom than to give money to people who are trying to save the single throated red spider warbler of knotts creek and, again, the funding of piss in a jar.)

[JIMINATOR]

Originally posted by PimpDaddy@Feb 20 2004, 05:01 PM
My opinion is that it is a gamble on the current administrations part, that the money invested will be repaid 10 fold, in the same manner as the money we spent on Japan and Germany.
unfortunately I don&#39;t think that is going to happen here. With japan and germany,
we had no preexisting legacy of bad feeling and blame. Not the case here.
The people there blame us for everything that has gone wrong, is going wrong
and will go wrong in the future. I have read articles about US soldiers being
attacked, them firing back, and normal iraqi civilians saying that because of the
wild shootings, if they had guns, they would have shot at the americans also.
the latest and greatest tactic is now to blow up american supporters, iraqi policeman, etc.
it is the same old crap, different day. nothing has changed there. the people
are not going to change. they hate us, and every death that occurs by whichever
hand is just another reason for them to justify their hate.
and all this is for what? cheap oil? Heck man, if it is for terrorists, we should have invaded saudi arabia instead.

[PimpDaddy]

Exactly why I tend to agree with you Jim (on this point anyway :rofl: ). I wouldn&#39;t be suprised if the schools that we are HELPING to rebuild, will be breeding grounds for the future hate america crowd. Of course I hope to hell I&#39;m wrong, and that that will not be the case. What a gamble though &#33;

[ME BIGGD01]

cheap oil? where?

saudi arabia? agree

screw rebuilding them(iraq) lets take everything and take over. that&#39;s what war is and i agree they will always hate us just like the rst of the world.


if we do not intend to take over than let&#39;s just leave them as is now that saddam is gone. after america would leave iraq, the rest of the arabs would fight themself to take over iraq. whem a new saddam takes over, next time we just drop a nice pretty bomb that wipes them out. no need to lose soldiers when we have bombs to do the work. i hate that we are build their schools when the schools in america need to be rebuilt. this is why bush has failed. i will not be suprised during election time we find bin laden and capture or kill him. big whoop, they will terrorists always exist. you have to slam the fist down to show you are serious&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

the only lie that pisses me off that bush made was that before he was elected, in a speech he said it is not america&#39;s responsibility to rebuild anothe rcountry. it is that gov&#39;t job. that to me is a lie because he is using our american dollars to rebuild a country that hates us in hope they will become like america. i just want to remind people that america had it&#39;s revolution and many people died fighting it. it is up to those people to do the same.