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merkwannabe
03-30-2004, 02:36 AM
I was wondering what you guys thought about the concept of strafing fast, which causes your opponent to see a much faster you... I was called a "pu$$y" by one of our "soft-spoken" members, (who will remain a secret, your welcome), and wondered if some of you guys thought the same thing..

My thoughts are that everyone can do it and it requires skill to do, it's not like I'm grabbing a pup or the rockets and going wild, which I do every once in a while. I also noticed there are a lot of players that do it, so it can't be that bad..

But will this make us really bad players in other games where we can't speed strafe?

Dangerous Dan
03-30-2004, 02:43 AM
who knows? personally i want to see how nitro family online is going to encorperateshooting people up in the air :shifty: no straffing there :shifty:

OUTLAWS 9.99repeating^32
03-30-2004, 03:26 AM
Well, I don't think that normal strafing is cheating; it's part of the skill that is the game. It isn't easy to strafe and shoot accurately, although with practice it becomes second nature.

However, I have seen some people who strafe much much faster than others(one of them is a member of this board), and if these people have edited any of their files to achieve this affect, than I would say that they are definitely cheating.

11011101
03-30-2004, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by 9.99repeating^32@Mar 29 2004, 07:26 PM
Well, I don't think that normal strafing is cheating; it's part of the skill that is the game. It isn't easy to strafe and shoot accurately, although with practice it becomes second nature.

However, I have seen some people who strafe much much faster than others(one of them is a member of this board), and if these people have edited any of their files to achieve this affect, than I would say that they are definitely cheating.
My thoughts exactly. :thumbs:

OUTLAWS high ping camper
03-30-2004, 04:30 AM
Agreed, if you have to change or add a file.....you're cheating.

JIMINATOR
03-30-2004, 04:58 AM
the effect you are talking about is caused by lag.
sam will attempt to predict where a player is moving, and redraw to
that position. buit surprise, your key whacking moved you in the
opposite direction and the prediction is wrong. so now you have
appeared to zip 10 feet in the opposite direction.
i guess everyone can do it, but then again you can talk about
sd, should you or shouldn't you.... :hmmm:

Loket
03-30-2004, 06:43 AM
I always use the knife when I want to move faster.

Black Rose
03-30-2004, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Mar 30 2004, 05:58 AM
the effect you are talking about is caused by lag.

yes, exactly. Itīs not a cheat :wave:

<<Hybrid>>
03-30-2004, 07:48 AM
yes that is just deffect of lag. i dont know how to strafe fast, but some of people asked me how i am doing that

OUTLAWS high ping camper
03-30-2004, 12:34 PM
well, it&#39;s a new (lag) effect.....&#39;cause I never noticed it before. :)

Asian Invasian
03-30-2004, 12:43 PM
ok well personally i will do it every once and a while it depends if your going back and forth i am on 56k so basicall you disapear which is pretty cheap to me and i dont care so i do it back :P really this is getting bad,..... worse and worse how many people find more things to whine about. For the record Merk your definantely not a pus&#036;y, and you have great skill. :rofl: i think i know who it was and was he joking or serious :hmmm:

Casanova
03-30-2004, 04:12 PM
If it was a cheat, there would be about 10 cheaters on this board. :D

FASTway
03-31-2004, 01:01 AM
Definitely not a cheat. Well it is as much a cheat as third person. ;)
If you are going to play this game you might as well learn how to exploit it to your benefit (if it doesn&#39;t alter the code).

Nitro
03-31-2004, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by JIMINATOR@Mar 29 2004, 11:58 PM
the effect you are talking about is caused by lag.
sam will attempt to predict where a player is moving, and redraw to
that position. buit surprise, your key whacking moved you in the
opposite direction and the prediction is wrong. so now you have
appeared to zip 10 feet in the opposite direction.
i guess everyone can do it, but then again you can talk about
sd, should you or shouldn&#39;t you.... :hmmm:
jim&#39;s right; predicting where players move helps alot but only would work w/o lag if you had a multigigahertz system. No cheating by my opinion.

Asian Invasian
03-31-2004, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Terminathare@Mar 30 2004, 10:07 PM
Fastway....home movies in your sig? :rofl:
:rofl: thats great :P

Die Hard
03-31-2004, 10:55 PM
I wish I had a Dollar for every time AI has mentioned he&#39;s on 56k :rolleyes:

TheUltimateWarrior
04-01-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Die Hard@Mar 31 2004, 11:55 PM
I wish I had a Dollar for every time AI has mentioned he&#39;s on 56k :rolleyes:
:rofl:

Slayer was the first guy who I ever saw fast strafe, he thought and Chan how to do it, and we passed it on to Jacobs and Turbo Charger :) I think turbo is the only one who still strafes though...
If you got a good aim you dont have to strafe :P :oooo:

ME BIGGD01
04-01-2004, 03:13 PM
in order to do this accurately, you must be editing the bandwidth setting am i right merk?

TheMaster
04-01-2004, 05:46 PM
I don&#39;t see it as cheating unless you have to edit cfg or use a cheating tool you got off the net. Speed strafing doesn&#39;t seem to be a problem, unless it never runs out on them or something&#33; LOL

TheMaster

Nitro
04-01-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Apr 1 2004, 10:13 AM
in order to do this accurately, you must be editing the bandwidth setting am i right merk?
you mean maxbps and minbps right?
if so, my numbers are extreme which is either very bad or very good, depending how i feel on a given day

merkwannabe
04-01-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Apr 1 2004, 08:13 AM
in order to do this accurately, you must be editing the bandwidth setting am i right merk?
I have not editted anything that I know of... I am not sure what exactly the question is asking.

A person does not have to change any settings in order to strafe really fast. You just strafe left and right as quickly as you can. It doesn&#39;t always help, but sometimes it&#39;s fun to do. [Btw, normally the player strafing fast cannot tell they are doing so]

Sometimes SS is such a random game that even I think I am playing against a cheater. When I shoot people and think they should be dead, but manage to somehow glitch out of it, then I get the idea they are cheating.. Unfortunatley most of the time it&#39;s probably just a lagg spike or some bump in the game or server&#33;


:)

EXEcution
04-01-2004, 08:45 PM
My favorite netcode easter egg is the one where it looks like you gibbed a player, but in reality he&#39;s still there at 100 health and coming at you with a knife
PURE GENIOUS&#33;

anis
04-01-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by .:EXEcution:.@Apr 1 2004, 08:45 PM
My favorite netcode easter egg is the one where it looks like you gibbed a player, but in reality he&#39;s still there at 100 health and coming at you with a knife
PURE GENIOUS&#33;
Exactly

Casanova
04-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by anis+Apr 2 2004, 12:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (anis @ Apr 2 2004, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-.:EXEcution:.@Apr 1 2004, 08:45 PM
My favorite netcode easter egg is the one where it looks like you gibbed a&nbsp; player, but in reality he&#39;s still there at 100 health and coming at you with a knife
PURE GENIOUS&#33;
Exactly [/b][/quote]
:rofl:

Yeah that happens to me a lot in 1.07... :bandhead:

Asian Invasian
04-01-2004, 11:17 PM
that happens every kill on 56k and its so gay :bandhead: the best is using a minigun the person explodes every second about 5 times before they really die :P

ME BIGGD01
04-02-2004, 03:53 AM
i say just play to have fun or move to something better like most did. who cares at this point? lets all hope the next version is better. :thumbs:

Dangerous Dan
04-02-2004, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Casanova+Apr 1 2004, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casanova @ Apr 1 2004, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by anis@Apr 2 2004, 12:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-.:EXEcution:.@Apr 1 2004, 08:45 PM
My favorite netcode easter egg is the one where it looks like you gibbed a* player, but in reality he&#39;s still there at 100 health and coming at you with a knife
PURE GENIOUS&#33;
Exactly
:rofl:

Yeah that happens to me a lot in 1.07... :bandhead: [/b][/quote]
no no, that&#39;s 1.05 :P

Asian Invasian
04-02-2004, 04:14 AM
:rofl:

merkwannabe
04-02-2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by ME BIGGD01@Apr 1 2004, 08:53 PM
i say just play to have fun or move to something better like most did. who cares at this point? lets all hope the next version is better. :thumbs:
That&#39;s true.. I guess I want to get as much out of it as I can.. I also want to know where I stand in the eyes of others.. I don&#39;t wanna find out some day I was just a good for nothing spawn killer who used speed strafing to win.

Casanova
04-02-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Dangerous Dan+Apr 2 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dangerous Dan @ Apr 2 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Casanova@Apr 1 2004, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by anis@Apr 2 2004, 12:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-.:EXEcution:.@Apr 1 2004, 08:45 PM
My favorite netcode easter egg is the one where it looks like you gibbed a* player, but in reality he&#39;s still there at 100 health and coming at you with a knife
PURE GENIOUS&#33;
Exactly
:rofl:

Yeah that happens to me a lot in 1.07... :bandhead:
no no, that&#39;s 1.05 :P [/b][/quote]
The h*ll it is... :P :rolleyes: :oooo: