Anyone have a telescope.

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

I want this bad boy.

[Phoenix]

My friend has a really good one....cost a ****load though

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

This one is around $600.

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

Damn Machine that looks sweet.
I used to have one but where I live there are too many lights to lsee anything. :(

[Phoenix]

Ouch! Dont know if it was that much though....

[FASTway]

is it good for checking out the neighbors. :P

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

This one is supposed to be really sweet. Good enough to see Jupiter's moons, other galaxies, and all sorts of cool stuff.

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 3 2002, 10:43 PM
This one is supposed to be really sweet. Good enough to see Jupiter's moons, other galaxies, and all sorts of cool stuff.
Damn link to buy please.
I'll take it out to the everglades and check it out.

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

Link. (http://www.telescope.com/)

You can do a catalog request.

[Ahsumdude]

I have something similiar that I pulled out of a Cracker Jack box. You can have that for free if you wish.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by FASTway@Dec 4 2002, 03:42 AM
is it good for checking out the neighbors. :P
very good. :D

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 3 2002, 10:48 PM
Link. (http://www.telescope.com/)

You can do a catalog request.
Thankyou.

[Dark Energy]

MMMMMMMMMMM nice ...
trouble is you need to live some where with no lights so you can see the sky clear




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[Grimmy]

just what the hell would you do with that Machine?? Surely you wouldn't be looking for stars. *closes curtains and shuts lights off* :lol:

[Saretta]

I have one really really small one. With a normal binocular u can see nearly the same. :(

When I earn my own money I would like to have a Meade telescope...

[Sirc]

Originally posted by FASTway@Dec 3 2002, 10:42 PM
is it good for checking out the neighbors. :P
Maybe in the next state. :D I doubt that you would be able to focus on anything nearby with it.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by BainSidhe@Dec 4 2002, 12:27 PM
I have one really really small one. With a normal binocular u can see nearly the same. :(

When I earn my own money I would like to have a Meade telescope...
yep a Meade with a computer on it to to autoaim on galaxies and stars and stuff would be really cool but it costs around 6000 $

[OPTIMOOSE]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 3 2002, 10:36 PM
I want this bad boy.

http://www.gamemecca.net/forums/uploads/post-1-1038972979.jpg


I thought you only needed a magnifiying glass to find it machine, but i never thought you needed a telescope!

WHoa!

:)

[Sirc]

I work with this guy. He is amazing. His pictures are published everywhere.

http://www.galacticimages.com/

[HAMMER]

Machine, in a previous life, I used to build telescopes just like this one. They are called Newtonian Reflectors, or on the inside circuit, known as "Light Buckets".

Buy a telescope magazine, go to the back of the magazine, and look at some of the cheap setups you can get ahold of out there. The best ones are made of sonotube(sp?) that contsruction companies use. Just make sure your optics are made by a good reputable company, and you can buy a much better telescope than this one.

I used to have a 13.5" f5.6 bucket like the one you posted, that only cost me 600 bucks, and it was WAAAAY way better than what you posted. I could crawl inside of it LOL The tube was like 8 feet long. It was amazing.

The focal length on that telescope you posted is way too short for my tastes. You won't get much magnification out of it at all, but you will see better deep sky stuff such as galaxies and nebula. Get a f5 or better, 10" or something. You will like it much better. You can actually make out storms on Jupiter's surface, and you can feel like you're walking on the moon LOL

But...this thing you posted is made with expensive materials that are redundant in the case of precision optics. Just buy a cheapy rig, but go with a good company for optics.

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

Hammer - what brands are good and where can I get them?

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

This was my other choice.

Link (http://www.telescope.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=3988&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=4&iSubCat=9&iProductID=3988)

[HAMMER]

Man...I used to do business with this company in Idyllwild CA, that I was just simply THRILLED about. They had the best prices, and their optics were second to none, but the name escapes me. I'll think of it later, and post here...it's right in my brain somewhere....

[HAMMER]

If you really sweet talk me, I will LOAN you my official star chart collection, so you can become a member of the Messier Club! :)


You do know of course that THIS time of year is best for viewing? DEEP DEEP Winter is the absolute best. There are no temperature inversions to worry about :)

[HAMMER]

COULTER OPTICAL!!!

They rule man...

You can buy a scope off of them TWICE the size of the one you have posted, they are called the Odyssey series.

Coulter Optical (http://www.murni.com/)

[HAMMER]

The scope you posted is about what? 6"? 8"? It looks like it's about an f4.

At Coulter, you can get a 10" f5 with Dobsonian mount and 27 mm Kellner lens for 500 beans!

You can buy a nice 6mm eyepiece and you're set for hi mag, and lo mag deep sky :)

STILL FOR UNDER 600 bucks...

[Sauron]

here (http://www.meade.com/catalog/lx/14_lx200gps.html) is the one i would love to have

[Sauron]

but it is waaaay to expensive :(

[Sauron]

here is a photo taken with that Telescope

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

Cool. will check out Coulter tonight. B)

[HAMMER]

Originally posted by Sauron@Dec 4 2002, 09:17 AM
here is a photo taken with that Telescope
Well, the first time you look through your telescope, you will find out that this image (which, I beleive is the Trifid Nebula...it's been a while), you will find out that it looks NOTHING like that. This picture was color enhanced, and time exposed. The actual image you see of this, or any of the Messier objects is actually quite dim, and takes a while of staring to even see. Most Nebulae fall in the order of 10th-12th magnitude, which is similar to making a candle out from 1000 yards away LOL

I'm not joking either...it takes time and patience to really make out a good deep sky object...

[THUMBS]

Thanks guys i have now added that to my christmas wish list of item that i cannot get..just below christina applegate...hmmmmm, cherry pie. :ph34r:

[Sauron]

Originally posted by HAMMER+Dec 4 2002, 05:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HAMMER @ Dec 4 2002, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Sauron@Dec 4 2002, 09:17 AM
here is a photo taken with that Telescope
Well, the first time you look through your telescope, you will find out that this image (which, I beleive is the Trifid Nebula...it&#39;s been a while), you will find out that it looks NOTHING like that. This picture was color enhanced, and time exposed. The actual image you see of this, or any of the Messier objects is actually quite dim, and takes a while of staring to even see. Most Nebulae fall in the order of 10th-12th magnitude, which is similar to making a candle out from 1000 yards away LOL

I&#39;m not joking either...it takes time and patience to really make out a good deep sky object...[/b][/quote]
thatss the way it was taken :

The Veil Nebula, NGC 6992 Jack Newton; Meade 16" LX200 at f/6.3; Pictor 1616XT; Exposure data; 5 minutes in red, 20 minutes in green, and 20 minutes in blue.

[Casanova]

I have no telescope...

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

Originally posted by HAMMER@Dec 4 2002, 09:54 AM
COULTER OPTICAL&#33;&#33;&#33;

They rule man...

You can buy a scope off of them TWICE the size of the one you have posted, they are called the Odyssey series.

Coulter Optical (http://www.murni.com/)
Are you talking about the build it yourself Odyssey kits or these?

[Mr Clean]

here is a photo taken with that Telescope

Cool, Sauron, but someone&#39;s pot smoke got in the picture.... :D

[Mr Clean]

I thought you only needed a magnifiying glass to find it machine, but i never thought you needed a telescope&#33;

WHoa&#33;


Props OP, that was good&#33;

[Mr Clean]

Cool Hubble Space Telescope shot....

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

Originally posted by Mr Clean@Dec 4 2002, 04:09 PM

I thought you only needed a magnifiying glass to find it machine, but i never thought you needed a telescope&#33;

WHoa&#33;


Props OP, that was good&#33;
That&#39;s because the end of it is so far away. :lol:

[Mr Clean]

MACHINE&#33; Nice return smash on OP&#39;s comment.....

Are we gonna have to lock this thread to keep you two from engaging in a flame war?... :D

[Snip3r]

I have a telescope that costed 100&#036; and sux major ass. But I can see the Moon kinda close :( I wish I had one of the ones on Discovery channel since I love Astronomy :)
BTW Mr. Clean....Leave my post smoke alone :P

[HAMMER]

Originally posted by Sauron@Dec 4 2002, 09:10 AM
here (http://www.meade.com/catalog/lx/14_lx200gps.html) is the one i would love to have
Sauron, that scope you posted is what is known as a "Catadioptric" configuration. It uses refractor lenses, and mirrors in a combination to increase the focal length in a smaller compartment. The image quality of these scopes, as nice as they look, is far inferior to a light bucket. You lose so much light in the multiple trips up and down the scope on those things. Yeah they are smaller, but you don&#39;t get anywhere near the full aperture size in light collection. An 8" catadioptric scope works at below 7" of quality, whereas a light bucket gets you 99 percent of your entire aperture size.

That picture you posted is NOTHING like what you will see when you look through the scope...no matter what they may tell you. I couldn&#39;t get THAT good an image of the Veil with MY scope, which was over twice the size of what you posted.

Size DOES matter when it comes to scopes. The bigger the optical surface, the more light it collects. The more light it collects, the more detail you see.

[HAMMER]

Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine+Dec 4 2002, 02:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS The Machine @ Dec 4 2002, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--HAMMER@Dec 4 2002, 09:54 AM
COULTER OPTICAL&#33;&#33;&#33;

They rule man...

You can buy a scope off of them TWICE the size of the one you have posted, they are called the Odyssey series.

Coulter Optical (http://www.murni.com/)
Are you talking about the build it yourself Odyssey kits or these?[/b][/quote]
Hey&#33; That&#39;s a great deal Machine&#33;&#33;&#33; You get a low power, and high power eyepiece, and a real refractor finder scope&#33; The 10" f5 is outstanding for both deep sky, and hi mag stuff. All for only 649 delivered&#33; Jump on that man...it&#39;s a fantastic deal&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Sauron]

Originally posted by HAMMER+Dec 5 2002, 07:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HAMMER @ Dec 5 2002, 07:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Sauron@Dec 4 2002, 09:10 AM
here (http://www.meade.com/catalog/lx/14_lx200gps.html) is the one i would love to have
That picture you posted is NOTHING like what you will see when you look through the scope...no matter what they may tell you. I couldn&#39;t get THAT good an image of the Veil with MY scope, which was over twice the size of what you posted.

Size DOES matter when it comes to scopes. The bigger the optical surface, the more light it collects. The more light it collects, the more detail you see.[/b][/quote]
ummh well i had 3 years astronomy in school and i know that the Pics u see are much diffrent to the one i posted cause the one i posted is a photography &#33;&#33;&#33; And iwe had watching nights with that telescope when i had astronomy so i know exactly what u see when looking through that thing and i know that the computer adjustment to the Messiers u want is really a great thing cause u can easily find deepsky objects&#33;&#33;
And i also like at that telescope is the easy plug in for a CCD camera which is also a important piece when it come to photographies of deep sky images and i saw pictures which our astronomy teacher made with this kind of scope and they came really close to what u see on the pic

[HAMMER]

That scope you posted is much bigger than I thought it was. It&#39;s a 14". Mine was a 13.5 Newtonian.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying that&#39;s how the Veil actually looked through the scope. My bad :)

I spent so many years studying Astronomy, it&#39;s crazy. I used to know all of the constellations, and what objects were viewable just off the top of my head, but now it&#39;s all hazy to me :)

I need to get back into it someday.

[HAMMER]

I still don&#39;t like cats tho...I&#39;m a light bucket fan :)

They make light buckets with features like this too, but they also run quite pricey.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by HAMMER@Dec 5 2002, 08:19 PM
That scope you posted is much bigger than I thought it was. It&#39;s a 14". Mine was a 13.5 Newtonian.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying that&#39;s how the Veil actually looked through the scope. My bad :)

I spent so many years studying Astronomy, it&#39;s crazy. I used to know all of the constellations, and what objects were viewable just off the top of my head, but now it&#39;s all hazy to me :)

I need to get back into it someday.
its ok :) i love astronomy too thats why i want this damn thing so badly well maybe ihave to save money when i have a job to buy me that damn thing sometimes

[Sauron]

And i have the luck to live on the land so there isnt much lights around and i can watch the sky really good

lucky me :)

maybe i can get some pics my teacher made and post them here