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Sirc
12-17-2002, 02:48 AM
Okay, I have 2 80 gig 7200 rpm drives - gonna keep 'em. I have a GF4 Ti 4400 - gonna keep it for the time being. Can I keep the Compaq Presario case? Its got a 350 watt supply. So I think I just need a new mobo, AMD processor, and memory. I think I would prefer an Asus mobo, but I'm open to suggestions. I need suggestions and sources. Also tell me if I really need to upgrade the stock processor heat sink.

I may also decide to get an optical mouse. I haven't decided yet.

I want the best that is currently available. :)

Sirc
12-17-2002, 02:49 AM
Oh, if you guys are fast enough, I may order it yet tonight. :D

Sirc
12-17-2002, 02:50 AM
Argh. Where did Shogun and Machine go? :rolleyes:

Crism
12-17-2002, 02:53 AM
you cant use the presario psu...i wouldnt recommend the case either...compaq products are for compaq pc only...except video card processor cooler, and most times memory...

Chieftec Tower Case
Asus A7N8X Deluxe (NForce2 Baby!!!)
Vantec 470W PSU from enpc.com for $96.00 (steal!!!)
Samsung PC2700 memory
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ to 2800+ (make machine jealous :P )

Sirc
12-17-2002, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Crism@Dec 16 2002, 09:53 PM
you cant use the presario psu...i wouldnt recommend the case either...compaq products are for compaq pc only...except video card processor cooler, and most times memory...

Chieftec Tower Case
Asus A7N8X Deluxe (NForce2 Baby!!!)
Vantec 470W PSU from enpc.com for $96.00 (steal!!!)
Samsung PC2700 memory
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ to 2800+ (make machine jealous :P )
I was afraid of that. Oh well, thanks Crism! :)

Can anyone top this?

Crism
12-17-2002, 02:56 AM
wait...get a Thermalright SLK-800 with a Sunon or something like that fan and cool that processor down to overclock... :D

Sirc
12-17-2002, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Crism@Dec 16 2002, 09:56 PM
wait...get a Thermalright SLK-800 with a Sunon or something like that fan and cool that processor down to overclock... :D
I might get that later. I'm kinda on a budget right now and overclocking can wait. :D

Crism
12-17-2002, 03:02 AM
ok...then for now i'd saw the CoolerMaster HHC-001

CPU FAN|HHC-001 PURE COPPER (AMD/INTEL) For socket 370, A, 462, (Intel) PIII CuMine Up to 1.13GHz & Higher, Celeron/Tualatin up to 1.5GHz Higher. (AMD) Athlon up to 1.8GHz, Athlon 4 up to 2.2GHz, Duron up to 1GHz & Higher. This is designed for Overclocking. ( THE ULITMATE THERMAL SOLUTION) Retail Box Model#: HHC-001 Special FedEx Saver Shipping $4.00
- Product Link -See It! (image count 3 ) -Price Alert (N82E16835103130) Return
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(59)
$26.00

or maybe Volcano 9...

OUTLAWS The Machine
12-17-2002, 03:03 AM
It's kind hard to say without looking at the case. I would say probably not though. If it will accept an ATX form factor mobo and has the ATX power supply connector then it should work.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by Crism@Dec 16 2002, 10:02 PM
ok...then for now i'd saw the CoolerMaster HHC-001

CPU FAN|HHC-001 PURE COPPER (AMD/INTEL) For socket 370, A, 462, (Intel) PIII CuMine Up to 1.13GHz & Higher, Celeron/Tualatin up to 1.5GHz Higher. (AMD) Athlon up to 1.8GHz, Athlon 4 up to 2.2GHz, Duron up to 1GHz & Higher. This is designed for Overclocking. ( THE ULITMATE THERMAL SOLUTION) Retail Box Model#: HHC-001 Special FedEx Saver Shipping $4.00
- Product Link -See It! (image count 3 ) -Price Alert (N82E16835103130) Return
(avg rating out of 73 voters)
(59)
$26.00

or maybe Volcano 9...
Um, I want the top of the line AMD processor, mobo, and memory. Doesn't the processor come with an adequate heat sink (assuming no overclocking)?

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 16 2002, 10:03 PM
It's kind hard to say without looking at the case. I would say probably not though. If it will accept an ATX form factor mobo and has the ATX power supply connector then it should work.
How do I tell if it does?

OUTLAWS The Machine
12-17-2002, 03:09 AM
Do you have another puter with an ATX board in it? Does you compact mobo looks really small?

OUTLAWS The Machine
12-17-2002, 03:10 AM
Cases are pretty damn cheap. I would go ahead and get a new one anyway.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 16 2002, 10:10 PM
Cases are pretty damn cheap. I would go ahead and get a new one anyway.
Okay. New case. Chieftec tower?

AMD Athlon 2800?
Asus A7NX8 Deluxe Mobo?
Vantec 470W PS
Samsung PC2700 memory (512 mb)

Everyone agree? Anything else I need?

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:24 AM
BTW, I have an Audigy Gamer that I'd like to keep. If the mobo has onboard sound/graphics - can it be disabled?

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:24 AM
Cases are real cheap
ASUS A7N8X Mobo= $150.00
512 2700+ about 80 or so
cases are anywhere between 3- up to 150

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 10:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--OUTLAWS The Machine@Dec 16 2002, 10:10 PM
Cases are pretty damn cheap. I would go ahead and get a new one anyway.
Okay. New case. Chieftec tower?

AMD Athlon 2800?
Asus A7NX8 Deluxe Mobo?
Vantec 470W PS
Samsung PC2700 memory (512 mb)

Everyone agree? Anything else I need?[/b][/quote]
So does everyone agree that this is the hotest thing going? What other stuff do I need? Thermal compound, etc? I don&#39;t want to be putting it together an find out that I need to order something else.

Nobody
12-17-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 09:24 PM
512 2700+ about 80 or so

Double that price. I would say about &#036;150 for 512.

Cooling I would get an OEM cpu and buy my own cooler. OEM are a little cheaper about &#036;20 or so.

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:33 AM
The board is the Sh&#33;t Sirc.
The soun on this board is so good that you will not need a soundcard.
I went with the retail CPU.
You pay a bit more but it comes with a good heatsin and fan and a 3yr warranty.

I went with samsung memory.
The Bios on this board are very user friendly and easy to tweak.

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:33 AM
It might have been that I bought a combo deal but I only paid &#036;75.00 fot the ram.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by Nobody+Dec 16 2002, 10:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nobody @ Dec 16 2002, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 09:24 PM
512 2700+ about 80 or so

Double that price. I would say about &#036;150 for 512.

Cooling I would get an OEM cpu and buy my own cooler. OEM are a little cheaper about &#036;20 or so.[/b][/quote]
Okay, I&#39;ll go along with that. I&#39;ll get the Thermalright SLK-800. Which fan? Was the one Crism mentioned a good one?

Troop
12-17-2002, 03:34 AM
You&#39;ll definitely need a new case. The Compaqs leave little room to manouver. They are not made to be taken apart.

As far as your sound goes, I think it&#39;s adequate. I would recommend the optical mouse.

The onboard sound and video can be disabled but why go with that mobo anyway? Just get one without.

The processor should have an adequate heat sink but I would suggest putting in the extra fan.

Good luck and have fun.

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 10:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 10:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Nobody@Dec 16 2002, 10:31 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 09:24 PM
512 2700+ about 80 or so

Double that price. I would say about &#036;150 for 512.

Cooling I would get an OEM cpu and buy my own cooler. OEM are a little cheaper about &#036;20 or so.
Okay, I&#39;ll go along with that. I&#39;ll get the Thermalright SLK-800. Which fan? Was the one Crism mentioned a good one?[/b][/quote]
yes it was.
If money becomes an issue for ya use the AMD heaksink and fan.
It&#39;ll save ya about 60 bucks or so.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:33 PM
The board is the Sh&#33;t Sirc.
The soun on this board is so good that you will not need a soundcard.
I went with the retail CPU.
You pay a bit more but it comes with a good heatsin and fan and a 3yr warranty.

I went with samsung memory.
The Bios on this board are very user friendly and easy to tweak.
The onboard sound is better than the Audigy? :o

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 10:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:33 PM
The board is the Sh&#33;t Sirc.
The soun on this board is so good that you will not need a soundcard.
I went with the retail CPU.
You pay a bit more but &nbsp;it comes with a good heatsin and fan and a 3yr warranty.

I went with samsung memory.
The Bios on this board are very user friendly and easy to tweak.
The onboard sound is better than the Audigy? :o[/b][/quote]
Damn close to it man.
Dolby Digital onboard.
trust me man it&#39;s sweeeet.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Troop@Dec 16 2002, 10:34 PM
You&#39;ll definitely need a new case. The Compaqs leave little room to manouver. They are not made to be taken apart.

As far as your sound goes, I think it&#39;s adequate. I would recommend the optical mouse.

The onboard sound and video can be disabled but why go with that mobo anyway? Just get one without.

The processor should have an adequate heat sink but I would suggest putting in the extra fan.

Good luck and have fun.
If the onboard sound is better than the Audigy, then Sifi is in for a nice upgrade to his sound card. :D

But the Audigy rocks. Hard. Convince me. B)

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 10:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Troop@Dec 16 2002, 10:34 PM
You&#39;ll definitely need a new case. The Compaqs leave little room to manouver. They are not made to be taken apart.

As far as your sound goes, I think it&#39;s adequate. I would recommend the optical mouse.

The onboard sound and video can be disabled but why go with that mobo anyway? Just get one without.

The processor should have an adequate heat sink but I would suggest putting in the extra fan.

Good luck and have fun.
If the onboard sound is better than the Audigy, then Sifi is in for a nice upgrade to his sound card. :D

But the Audigy rocks. Hard. Convince me. B)[/b][/quote]
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=feature_soundstorm

Check it out

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:41 AM
Also go here.

http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7n8x/overview.htm

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:42 AM
and if your too lazy too click the link.



With an array of advanced technology, the A7N8X provides a revolutionary audio/video experience. AGP Pro/8X, doubling the bandwidth of AGP 4X, provides cutting-edge graphics performance while Dolby® digital 6-channel support brings incredible sound quality. Onboard 1394/USB 2.0 interfaces further enable smooth audio/video data transfer between DV/MP3 players and systems. In addition, Dual-Channel DDR400 and Serial ATA technology significantly enhance overall system performance, while a dual LAN design and Windows&#39; native Internet connection streamline your networking platform.


AGP 8X Technology

AGP8X (AGP 3.0) is the next generation VGA interface specification that enables enhanced graphics performance with high bandwidth speeds up to 2.12GB/s and twice as fast as AGP4X.


SoundStorm™ / Dolby® Digital Audio (Deluxe Model)

Experience the full power of surround sound audio with the NVIDIA® SoundStorm™. With the integrated APU (Audio Processing Unit) you will feel the impact in games or music. And with the only Dolby® Digital 5.1 encoder you can hear it all in amazing digital cinema clarity on your home theater receiver or digital PC speaker system.


Dual-Channel DDR400 Support

The 128-bit TwinBank DDR Memory architecture doubles the DDR 400 (PC3200) bandwidth. System bottlenecks are eliminated with balanced architecture and peak bandwidth up to 6.4GB/s.


Serial ATA Technology (Deluxe Model)

Serial ATA is the next generation ATA specification that provides scalable performance for today and tomorrow. With up to 150MB/s data transfer rate, Serial ATA is faster than current Parallel ATA, while providing 100% software compatibility.


Dual LAN (optional)

Integrated 3Com® and NVIDIA® LAN controllers lets users access broadband via one LAN port and share the Internet connection with network neighborhood via the other LAN port. ( 3Com LAN is for Deluxe Model Only)


ASUS C.O.P (CPU Overheating Protection)

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6-Channel Audio

The A7N8X uses an onboard Realtek® ALC650 audio CODEC that lets you enjoy high-quality 6-channel audio without having to buy advanced sound cards.


IEEE 1394 (Deluxe Model)

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6 USB 2.0 Ports

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ASUS Q-Fan Technology

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ASUS Wincinema (optional)

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WinDVD: The world&#39;s most popular DVD software supporting 5.1-channel audio

WinRip: MP3 Player / Encoder / Ripper featuring virtual 5.1-channel and surround sound effects.

WinCoder: Real-time MPEG-1 & 2 software video encoder

WinProducer: Easy-of-use MPEG-1 & 2 video editing software

Crism
12-17-2002, 03:43 AM
dont forget the arctic silver 3 compound&#33;&#33;&#33; get a sunon fan...you might want to check Plycon too for the Mechatronics fan that look sweet&#33;

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:54 AM
Okay, then this is the list:

Chieftec tower
Vantec 470W PS
AMD Athlon 2800
Asus A7NX8 Deluxe Mobo
Samsung PC2700 memory (512 mb)
Thermalright SLK-800
sunon fan
arctic silver 3 compound


Everyone agree? Anything else I need?

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:55 AM
One for me. :D

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:56 AM
So did I convince you Sirc?

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:56 AM
Shogun - I&#39;d like to hear what you have to say about this too. :)

Machine - does this look good?

Sirc
12-17-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:56 PM
So did I convince you Sirc?
Yes. :)

If I decide that I don&#39;t like it I can always stick with the Audigy. But the onboard sound looks sweet. B)

FUS1ON
12-17-2002, 03:58 AM
IMHO That system would kick major butt&#33;&#33;&#33; http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/thumb.gif

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 03:58 AM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:58 PM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.
LOL&#33; Lemme go get part numbers and a price list. I&#39;ll post it here before I order. If I think I can afford it I&#39;ll get the mouse too. Lets see, too many posts. Did someone recommend a mouse?

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:58 PM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.
LOL&#33; Lemme go get part numbers and a price list. I&#39;ll post it here before I order. If I think I can afford it I&#39;ll get the mouse too. Lets see, too many posts. Did someone recommend a mouse?[/b][/quote]
Doh&#33; Okay, Logitech Dual Optical. Sorry. :rolleyes:

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:58 PM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.
LOL&#33; Lemme go get part numbers and a price list. I&#39;ll post it here before I order. If I think I can afford it I&#39;ll get the mouse too. Lets see, too many posts. Did someone recommend a mouse?[/b][/quote]
Yes.

Shop around.
The 2800 may still be hard to get.
If you can&#39;t find it there&#39;s maybe a 9 or 10 percent difference between the 2

Grimmy
12-17-2002, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc+Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS Sirc @ Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:58 PM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.
LOL&#33; Lemme go get part numbers and a price list. I&#39;ll post it here before I order. If I think I can afford it I&#39;ll get the mouse too. Lets see, too many posts. Did someone recommend a mouse?[/b][/quote]
how about a free ps/2, no scroll??? They rule, they are a uniballer&#33;

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 04:02 AM
Also 1 other thing.
As many case fans as the case will fit.
I use 1 fron, 1 rear, 1 large exhaust fan, and a hd fan.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Grimmy+Dec 16 2002, 11:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Grimmy @ Dec 16 2002, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -OUTLAWS Sirc@Dec 16 2002, 11:00 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--WHOCARES@Dec 16 2002, 10:58 PM
Don&#39;t forget the Logitech Dual Optical Mouse.
LOL&#33; Lemme go get part numbers and a price list. I&#39;ll post it here before I order. If I think I can afford it I&#39;ll get the mouse too. Lets see, too many posts. Did someone recommend a mouse?
how about a free ps/2, no scroll??? They rule, they are a uniballer&#33;[/b][/quote]
Thank you Grimmy. I&#39;ll consider it. :P :D

Crap, now I can&#39;t remember the name of that on online place. Kinda sounds like Egghead, but its not. I lost my links during my last crash. :(

Nobody
12-17-2002, 04:10 AM
http://www.newegg.com

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:11 AM
:rolleyes: LOL. Yes. Thank you. Blonde moment. :P :D

OUTLAWS WHOCARES
12-17-2002, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS Sirc@Dec 16 2002, 11:11 PM
:rolleyes: LOL. Yes. Thank you. Blonde moment. :P :D
:wacko: :blink:

Nobody
12-17-2002, 04:13 AM
Case on special with 450w PS. Foxconn is a good namebrand PS too.

Silver:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-202&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-202&DEPA=1)

Blue :
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-200&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-200&DEPA=1)

FUS1ON
12-17-2002, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by Nobody@Dec 16 2002, 10:13 PM
Case on special with 450w PS. Foxconn is a good namebrand PS too.

Silver:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-202&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-202&DEPA=1)

Blue :
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-200&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-200&DEPA=1)
Those cases are nice with the 2.0 USB and Firewire ports up front.

Nobody
12-17-2002, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by OUTLAWS SHOGUN+Dec 16 2002, 10:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OUTLAWS SHOGUN @ Dec 16 2002, 10:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nobody@Dec 16 2002, 10:13 PM
Case on special with 450w PS. Foxconn is a good namebrand PS too.

Silver:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-202&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-202&DEPA=1)

Blue :
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...-125-200&DEPA=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-125-200&DEPA=1)
Those cases are nice with the 2.0 USB and Firewire ports up front.[/b][/quote]
&#036;89 bucks for an aluminum case with power supply and a window on the side is pretty damn good. And the ports up front make it even better. :D

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:38 AM
Okay, this is what I have so far. I couldn&#39;t find the recommended heat sink fan at NewEgg.com and I&#39;d really like to order everything from one place if possible. Anyone have another rcommendation? It comes out to &#036;861 so far.


BEIGE CHIEFTEC Server Chasis Workstation Tower with Plastic Front Cover and ACRYLIC WINDOW **Now with 2 x Front USB2.0 and 1 x Firewire IEEE1394 ports**450W AMD approved Power Supply, Powered by Foxconn (Austin) Front Accessible: 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5", Internal: 4 x 3.5". &#036;89.00 &#036;89.00


Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail
Specifications:
CPU Supported: Socket A AMD Athlon/XP/Duron (support AMD XP2800) Throughbred core CPU ready
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP, nForce2 MCP-T
FSB: 333/266/200MHz
IDE: 2x channel ATA133
RAM: 3x 184-pin DIMM Sockets (PC3200/PC2700/PC2100 non-ECC DDR Ram)
Slots: 1x AGP (Pro/8X), 5x PCI
Ports: 6x USB(2.0),
Onboard Serial ATA: Silicon Image Sil 3112A Controller with 2 ports, support RAID 0/1
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-ch w/built in amplifier, integrated APU (Audio Processor Unit), Soundstorm Encoder
Onboard LAN: MCP integrated 3Com MAC + Broadcom AC101L PHY
Onboard Firewire 1394: 2 Ports MCP-T integrated IEEE 1394a + Realtek PHY 8801B more info-> N82E16813131436 &#036;153.00 &#036;153.00


AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 333MHz FSB Processor CPU, Model# AXDA2800KV3D - OEM
Specifications:
Type: Athlon XP 2800+
Cache: 256K
BUS: 333MHz
Socket: Socket A
OEM - (Processor Only) more info-> N82E16819103348 &#036;389.00 &#036;389.00


512MB PC-2700 DDR333 Memory SAMSUNG module. 16-chip, 184-pin, CL=2.5 -OEM
Specifications:
Type: 184-pin DDR RAM
Capacity: 512MB
Speed: PC2700 Lifetime warranty more info-> N82E16820159202 &#036;155.00 &#036;155.00


Logitech Mouseman Dual Optical - Twin Optical Sensors USB and PS2
Delivers twice the precision as other optical mice.
Two sensors work seamlessly to calculate surface microstructures while a patented microprocessor synthesizes this information in real time.
The result? A faster, more accurate, and smoother performance.
Intelligent tracking on a variety of surfaces.
Dynamic transition system for increased precision.
Optical precision--* Works With PC & Mac *-- more info-> N82E16826104120 &#036;31.00 &#036;31.00


Arctic Silver&#39;s NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 3. 3-gram( 1 cc. ) tube. Artic Silver more info-> N82E16835100003 &#036;6.00 &#036;6.00


Thermalright SLK-800 ( Heatsink ONLY ). All Copper heat spread. Dimension: L87 x W56.4 x H48 (mm) - Top, without fan. L57.5 x W56.4 x H48 (mm) - Bottom. L25 x W56.4 - Base. Retail. Please see the image. more info-> N82E16835109005 &#036;38.00 &#036;38.00

Sirc
12-17-2002, 04:48 AM
Ahhhh&#33; Everyone has abondoned me&#33; ....despair. :(

Nobody
12-17-2002, 05:54 AM
Look in the case fans section you might find what you need in there. New Egg&#39;s fan selection seems to be a bit lacking. The Sunon which is the brand I use is out of stock on the 80mm <_<

Sirc
12-17-2002, 06:10 AM
Yeah, but I know nothing about fans, so I would simply be making a random pick. Does anyone have a recommendation for a fan to stick on the Thermalright SLK-800 that can be purchased at NewEgg?

Nobody
12-17-2002, 06:46 AM
Since everthing is pretty much out of stock this is your only choice. It&#39;s a good fan plenty of CFM and not bad on noise.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...N82E16811999107 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=N82E16811999107)

Specs

http://www.thermaltake.com/products/dcfan/8025.htm


Someone else may have a better suggestion but like I said the pickings are slim at Newegg. :D

Sirc
12-17-2002, 06:49 AM
Thank you&#33; :D

FUS1ON
12-17-2002, 07:23 AM
Like Nob said, The Sunons are good fans.

Here the problem with most 80mm fans, either they come with a four plug connector. (Notice only two wires coming from the fan to the connector)
Like this SUNON 80x80x25mm, Ballbearing, Case Fan, DC 12V, 2.1W, 2900 RPM, 39.0 CFM, 4-pin. MODEL: KD1208PTB2 Model#: KD1208PTB2 &#036;6US LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=127&manufactory=1388&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1)
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/11-999-001-02.JPG

And Most lack the third wire (Yellow) to monitor the rpm, but if you are handy with a soldiering iron and a few spare parts that you can get off some old fans you can get around that problem very easily. (Notice the location to connect a third wire on this fan, Sometimes this works)
Like on this Panasonic Panaflo Axial Fan 80x80x25.5mm, Ball Bearing, DC 12V, 3.24W, 3450 RPM, 46.9 CFM, 38.2 dB-A Model: FBA08A12U &#036;10US LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=127&manufactory=1560&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1)
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/35-180-005-02.JPG

I found three at Newegg that already have the three wires you need.
The first one is this one:
YS TECH Adjustable 8CM cooling fan. Manual adjustable fan speed, VERIABLE SPEED FROM 800rpm to 3700rpm. 10.2CFM - 48.7CFM 18dBA - 39.5dBA Model#: NFD1281259B-2F &#036;8US LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=127&manufactory=1564&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1)
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/11-999-604-01.JPG

And the second one is this one:
COOLER MASTER SAF-B83 Single Ball Bearing Fan Rotation Speed: 2500 RPM. Acoustical Noise: 26.0 dB(A) Model#: SAF-B83 &#036;7US LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=127&manufactory=1333&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1)
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/11-999-053-02.JPG

And the third is this one:
Thermaltake 80X80X25mm FAN, 2 Ball Bearing, 2900+/- 10% RPM, 37CFM Air Flow, with 3pin/4pin adapter. Retail. Model#: TT-8025A-2B &#036;7US LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=127&manufactory=1379&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1)
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/11-999-107-03.JPG

I recommend the Thermaltake if you don&#39;t feel like messing with adding the rpm monitoring wire, It moves plenty of air at 37cfm . The YS TECH is nice if you want the veriable speed control and it move a little more air at 48.7 cfm.

Sirc
12-17-2002, 07:37 AM
Sweet&#33; Thanks Shogun&#33; :D

I will probably order the stuff tomorrow. Can you think of anything else I might need. I think it was Whocares that recommended adding more fans to the case. Is this really necessary? And if so, what kind of fan?

FUS1ON
12-17-2002, 07:42 AM
The first one (Sunon) in my previous post would work great.

BTW I was in the process of posting that post and wasn&#39;t about to delete it even if Nob had already answered your question. :P

Nobody
12-17-2002, 08:26 AM
The Thermaltake is RPM sensing which is what you want. Most new boards have a feature that will not let it boot if it doesn&#39;t detect the CPU fan spinning. You don&#39;t want to blow a &#036;350 CPU because of a &#036;7 fan :blink: . I had to order my RPM sensing Sunon. As for the case fans it doesn&#39;t list it for that case but from the pics it looks like 4- 80mm fans can mount in that puppy. For those you just need the standard molex connector to the power supply or an adaptor. If they were in stock I would recommend the Sunons. I would say you need atleast two, one in front(intake) and one in rear (exhaust).