Push in battle?

[Sepra]

Well, this is a dilema of mine. I'm not sure which is more effective in a one on one battle. Is it better to push toward the other player while fighting or keep a distance? Does it just depend on the situation?? Opinions? Anyone? :wacko:

[TheUltimateWarrior]

what game

[Sepra]

sorry SS2

[TheUltimateWarrior]

It depends on the situation

I usually wait till my opponent shoots, then jump forward to finish him off

1 problem with that, if I miss, I'm dead,

you can also just strafe left and right and keep shooting him, without moving forward or backwords, always works fine,
dont jump too much, cause if you do, your an easy target for me

[Sepra]

Originally posted by TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 11:33 AM


1 problem with that, if I miss, I'm dead,


lol i've experienced that whole "miss and die" thing. I've started to get quite comfotable with my guts on the ground. :D Thanks i'll try and see if i have better luck.

[TheUltimateWarrior]

yw

[Aries]

Originally posted by _Sepra_@Jan 4 2003, 04:23 PM
Well, this is a dilema of mine.  I'm not sure which is more effective in a one on one battle.  Is it better to push toward the other player while fighting or keep a distance?  Does it just depend on the situation??  Opinions?  Anyone? :wacko:
Of course it depends on the situation

Although there are no conclusive answers, I will try to outline some hints

Here are a few parameters you need to take into account

1) know your opponent: know his/her reputation & know his/her style of play

if it's a player with a lot of skills I recommend to be more cautious and make
more use of cover (although I have to admit I'm often too reckless in this)
:ooo:

take time to observe and learn the play style of your opponent:
some jump towards you (like UTW said) and some strafe like mad (Bone
Collector)

please observe that the reference to existing persons is for the sole purpose of illustrating a general piece of advice. This post is in no way intended to focus on particular persons.

2) know yourself: know your own temperament & know your own weakness
and strength

Are you a person that tends to rush in head on or are you a shadow
warrior?!

I'm aware that your question is about a 1 on 1 battle...but even then both
approaches are possible

Are you good at strafing?! Are you good at seeking cover and striking from
your hide-out/behind your cover?! Do you have a good aim (also when
moving/strafing/jumping)?!

3) know your own status

how much health and how much armor do you posses (if its possible try to
figure this out of your opponent too...by pointing your crosshair at him/her
for a few secs....his/her status will blink then). Be extra cautious about
people with serious damage (orange aura) and people in blue (Smurfs! :P )
I believe an unspoken/unwritten law in Ssam says "if you see someone in
in blue...RUN away"

4) know your weaponry and the skill you have at handling them (just a few
examples)

rocket launcher: inflicts a great deal of damage (also the heattrail of the
rockets) but rockets can be shot when you launch them and then they can
blow up in your face.

tommy gun: the tommy gun is nowhere near as lethal as it is in ssam1
I believe I can say the shotguns are the default weapons in ssam2

Still every weapon has its merit and if handled adequately every weapon can be lethal

Good luck on improving your skills

[TheUltimateWarrior]

WOW aries :blink:

do i really want to read it all :D

[TheUltimateWarrior]

yeah
bone strafes like crazy!

all T4M can do that!

I think TUS (deva) is better at strafing!

and BTW
why does everyone keep calling me UTW..

that would say Ultimate the warrior???
if you gonna mke my name shorter
make it TUW!

[Sepra]

Thanks for your help...I'll take your advice into my next game. :thumbs:

[Aries]

Originally posted by TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 05:27 PM
WOW aries :blink:

do i really want to read it all :D
I suppose that's a rhetorical question, TUW ;-)

[Sepra]

lol he gave me all the details!!! I need it!

[TheUltimateWarrior]

Originally posted by Aries+Jan 4 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aries @ Jan 4 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 05:27 PM
WOW aries :blink:

do i really want to read it all :D
I suppose that&#39;s a rhetorical question, TUW ;-) [/b][/quote]
lol&#33;&#33;


did you ever play deva??

when he strafes to you and he tries to knife you&#33;
get scared&#33;&#33;

almost impossible to hit hiM&#33;

[Aries]

Originally posted by _Sepra_@Jan 4 2003, 05:34 PM
lol he gave me all the details&#33;&#33;&#33; I need it&#33;
It&#39;s great to see that you appreciate the pointers, and I hope they will help you a bit.

However it&#39;s impossible to give all the details....some things you just have to learn through practice and experience

:ooo: do I hear a trial and error echo?&#33; :ooo:

[TheUltimateWarrior]

If you know ALL that Aries

why do you keep missing me
lol

remember that little game we had
99-something for you

I wont tell the score (just for you)

Wanna have a rematch sometime?
not today though (not home)

[Aries]

Originally posted by TheUltimateWarrior+Jan 4 2003, 05:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheUltimateWarrior @ Jan 4 2003, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Aries@Jan 4 2003, 06:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 05:27 PM
WOW aries :blink:

do i really want to read it all :D
I suppose that&#39;s a rhetorical question, TUW ;-)
lol&#33;&#33;


did you ever play deva??

when he strafes to you and he tries to knife you&#33;
get scared&#33;&#33;

almost impossible to hit hiM&#33; [/b][/quote]

The Untouchable Soldier/Devastator is a good player
and yes I have played him

what to do against a good knifer?&#33;...hm this might be a good thread subject too

suggestion: if a good knifer closes in on you, without leaving you any space to shoot...then your only resort may be the knife as well

Ok I&#39;ll add a question myself

what factors play a role in a knife fight?

[Aries]

Originally posted by TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 05:48 PM
If you know ALL that Aries

why do you keep missing me
lol

remember that little game we had
99-something for you

I wont tell the score (just for you)

Wanna have a rematch sometime?
not today though (not home)
There is often a gap between theory and practice&#33; :P :angel: :ooo:


I know I&#39;m no match for u TUW I acknowledge that and have never/nowhere refuted that

If I ever get skills :rofl: , I&#39;ll surely let you know :P

[Sepra]

Originally posted by Aries@Jan 4 2003, 12:59 PM
There is often a gap between theory and practice&#33;

I can vouch for that&#33; Got theory in my head but my fingers wont listen :blink:

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by Aries@Jan 4 2003, 07:54 AM
what to do against a good knifer?&#33;...hm this might be a good thread subject too

suggestion: if a good knifer closes in on you, without leaving you any space to shoot...then your only resort may be the knife as well

Ok I&#39;ll add a question myself

what factors play a role in a knife fight?
Bleh, its not the knifer that you see that&#39;s the problem... :P

Anyway, one of my brother&#39;s favorite tricks in SS1 that I still use sometimes was to run backwards with the revolver shooting at the knifer, then when they got close enough, switch to the knife and charge them. Usually you can catch them between swings.

And I think lag can be a huge factor in a knife fight, even more so than with shotguns.

[OUTLAWS high ping camper]

Originally posted by _Sepra_+Jan 4 2003, 08:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_Sepra_ @ Jan 4 2003, 08:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--TheUltimateWarrior@Jan 4 2003, 11:33 AM


1 problem with that, if I miss, I&#39;m dead,


lol i&#39;ve experienced that whole "miss and die" thing. I&#39;ve started to get quite comfotable with my guts on the ground. :D Thanks i&#39;ll try and see if i have better luck. [/b][/quote]
LOL&#33; :D
If I&#39;m already close to them, I run towards them and jump, trying to land on their head (using the knife).
I don&#39;t win many games...LOL. :D

[Herbus Maximus]

Originally posted by Hobbes@Jan 4 2003, 02:50 PM

And I think lag can be a huge factor in a knife fight, even more so than with shotguns.
I can seriously relate to that. Lag can be a BIG factor in games. :wacko: