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JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:23 AM
i have some 8000, many of them duplicates...

20031101PM1119_Fortress_shot0044.jpg

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
:)

20031106PM1152_Fortress_shot0063.jpg

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
20031205AM0130_Fortress_shot0136
good times

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
drunken warrior was a hell of a player.
not sure who he was aside from that name
20031203PM1254_DM_LittleTrouble_shot0057

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:35 AM
you know dan came in late into this game...

20031203PM0917_Fortress_shot0119

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
lots of great players here
remember 'steadtler' - that was a bored hellraiser
see how I pwned DD and kept him scoreless... :)
20031202PM0612_DM_LittleTrouble_shot0054

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
not sure who this psycho dad character was.... :)
20031121PM1145_Fortress_shot0102

SHOTGUNmaniac
08-30-2006, 12:44 AM
some old ones

JIMINATOR
08-30-2006, 12:47 AM
that is enough for now. the thread isn't to brag, probably everyone has fragged my ass all over the place, but more to point out some good times that I had with excellent players, so ggz to all, where ever you are... :)

SHOTGUNmaniac
08-30-2006, 12:56 AM
sorry Jim, these arnt to brag, They are to say, Look at how times have changed... and where people are that uised to play...

Sirc
08-30-2006, 01:03 AM
Those were the glory days! Lots of servers, lots of players. You didn't have to worry about finding good people to play, you had to worry about being able to get on a server before it filled up. Damn good times. :thumbs:

And BTW, I did actually manage to occasionally win a few games. :P I got rid of all my screenies long ago though. :(

Great screenies guys!

I still have SS installed. Me thinks it's time to set up my game so I can play on my new monitor and have some fun getting owned. :)

EXEcution
08-30-2006, 01:14 AM
Ah yes, the golden year(s) of sam. Where every other player was in a clan and didn't constantly complain about spam or lag errrrr..... well maybe not. Anyway sam just wasn't the same for me after DD left along with the other MERCS, things just seemed to go downhill from there.

Surprisingly enough both the Villains and the Grim Reapers remain active in the ssam community to this day, good for them. Thanks to the dedication of TIK, Slash, and the Reapers a handfull of US players have servers to play on (for 3 minutes or so before issuing a complaint and immediately leaving).

To be quite honest I haven't played the game in almost two weeks either because there is no one on or the players are not a worthy challenge. Winning almost every single game gets repetative after a while and the maps are no longer as fun to play on as they once were.

Here are some shots from several montsh ago. Unfortunately I did not back up any of my demos or screenshots from the past years so I only have the screens which were taken when I last reinstalled Serious Sam.

SHOTGUNmaniac
08-30-2006, 01:14 AM
sircy, ill play a couple of games with you anytime.... It used to be a pain in the arse trying to get into a server back in the day... Now you can get into sevrers and theres never anyone there....For the few dedicated sam players that are left, we should have a big game sometime...

*edit* Exe. get me in msn, ill give you a game bud....

Dan2
08-30-2006, 01:15 AM
Some relics. Half of the folder is f9s. lol.

SHOTGUNmaniac
08-30-2006, 01:19 AM
hahaha nice1s dan, i remember the Jercs and secretions.... lol nice screenies.. some old names there too,

EXEcution
08-30-2006, 01:21 AM
*edit* Exe. get me in msn, ill give you a game bud....
I'm on MSN right now, but I doubt that you will be able to convince me to play anything. I'm kinda over video games right now and other things are beginning to interest me. I just recently started my first year of college and I have alot of work and responsibilities that need to be taken care of. Unless this game allows for players to earn instant cash I don't plan on trying it out. :(

NightBreed
08-30-2006, 01:35 AM
:thumbs: Wow..some awesome old screenies !!

I don't have a lot of the old ones on this machine, but here's a few !!

Black Rose
08-30-2006, 06:33 AM
drunken warrior was a hell of a player.
not sure who he was aside from that name
20031203PM1254_DM_LittleTrouble_shot0057

He was whymeee (DAB) before he joined the Reapers. :)
Great screenies Jim and wonderful memories.
We had fun games together, lotsa discussions here at GM, some locked threads because of flamewars.:rofl:.. but it was a wonderful time and we all had so much fun with our lovely SAM :wootrock:

Well, I can add some old screenies too ;) (couldn´t find the girls match screenies but I will look again, our girls parties were fantastic :) )

Xeno
08-30-2006, 08:55 AM
Great old Games everyone:D :thumbs:

Silverfox
08-31-2006, 09:44 AM
W0W, Great Screenies there, lots of good memories with great players.

It was nice seeing the spwa tag again..Thxs NB :D :thumbs:

I have a pile of screenies, i'll have to check through them and post some.

Lady Doom
08-31-2006, 05:23 PM
I must wait about one year yet to show some old screenies:D, but hey I'm there also:hmmm: well 2 years is not that bad I think:).
Great screenies all:thumbs:

Nitro
09-01-2006, 03:08 AM
I absolutely loved/love GoDs ^_^

Sirc
09-01-2006, 03:16 AM
We had fun games together, lotsa discussions here at GM, some locked threads because of flamewars.:rofl:.. but it was a wonderful time and we all had so much fun with our lovely SAM :wootrock:


Yeah, I heard that some people got banned because of the flame wars, and at least one person got banned more than once. Heh, losers. :P

Pathos
09-01-2006, 03:46 AM
Great stuff... miss those days! Thanks for the uploaded memories, Jim. [hanky blow] Post some more if you can be buggered! G'worn!

Fifth
09-01-2006, 07:44 AM
Nice screens Jim ;). Damn too bad I did not play these old days :(. ( Did not have even net :P ).

Would be cool if you all will post some old screen's :).

EXEcution
09-01-2006, 04:28 PM
I absolutely loved/love GoDs ^_^
HEATHEN!

Free Styler
09-01-2006, 08:08 PM
I've had so many aliases in my life i can't even count how many.. heck at least i'm honest.Tho the reason for doing so is not because of pride or wanting to keep a good image it's for the soul purpose of being the caracter ...the hunter in the game when i was playing and not some friendly hello what's up kinda guy let me tickle your tommy while fragging you kinda guy. Tho i always try to stay friendly in games...sometimes i got to be agressive and want to frag.Anyways a few screenies i found not long ago.I'd say these are prolly the only ones i've ever takin anyways so memories
are worthy to pop back up sometimes:).

Free Styler
09-01-2006, 08:11 PM
others

Free Styler
09-01-2006, 08:12 PM
the old school days indeed was fun the funnest game i've played for shure

Xeno
09-01-2006, 08:56 PM
lol, Great & Funny Games there Styl0r:thumbs:

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-02-2006, 12:53 AM
Yeah, I heard that some people got banned because of the flame wars, and at least one person got banned more than once. Heh, losers. :P

lol nice 1 chris, i think i joined you in that little bit of admin work..... :)

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-02-2006, 12:57 AM
nice games fs, u no screenies back form the [ELE] days, with undertaker and bong ???

Sirc
09-02-2006, 02:46 AM
lol nice 1 chris, i think i joined you in that little bit of admin work..... :)

First of all I am Sirc to you. We are not on a first name basis - only my friends call me Cris. Your little adventures on the Exodus forums, and your PMs to me there have pretty much ensured that you are not, and never will be, on my friends list. But if you insist on calling me Cris, at least learn to spell it right. :rolleyes:

Free Styler
09-02-2006, 06:34 AM
well shot gun maniac.Sadly no :( i only started taking pics in 1.07...and
when i say started these are honestly the very few i have ever takin.
I took some demos at one point when i wanted to make a movie but sadly
never really completed the thing and formated since so lost everything.

Fifth
09-02-2006, 09:00 AM
Nice screens fs ;).

:thumbs:

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-02-2006, 10:43 AM
First of all I am Sirc to you. We are not on a first name basis - only my friends call me Cris. Your little adventures on the Exodus forums, and your PMs to me there have pretty much ensured that you are not, and never will be, on my friends list. But if you insist on calling me Cris, at least learn to spell it right. :rolleyes:


You grumpy old man....

Nice screenies all, some really great games.

Nitro
09-02-2006, 08:02 PM
You grumpy old man....


Don't talk to my best friend like that!

Sirc
09-02-2006, 11:09 PM
Don't talk to my best friend like that!

Heh. Oddly enough, for all of the s*** you have pulled in the past, I've always had the impression that you were rather intelligent. Too intelligent. You've done some pretty clever s***. Nitro is teh evil genius. Somehow, on some level, in some wierd way, I've always respected that. ;)

UncleSam
09-03-2006, 01:07 AM
Heh. Oddly enough, for all of the s*** you have pulled in the past, I've always had the impression that you were rather intelligent. Too intelligent. You've done some pretty clever s***. Nitro is teh evil genius. Somehow, on some level, in some wierd way, I've always respected that. ;)


Stop, please... I'm starting to tear up :bawling: :D

Aries
09-03-2006, 10:06 AM
the old school days indeed was fun the funnest game i've played for shure

you're welcome :-)
I recognize the CF tags I used in the beginning when the SE division was resurrected :thumbs:

Black Rose
09-04-2006, 06:24 PM
Very nice thread Jim :wub:
I checked my old screenie cd´s and found some cool screenies with
old names... and of course some of our girlsmatch screenies :)

JIMINATOR
09-04-2006, 06:58 PM
ah, teh gods days.... and then there is also fastguy(pl)... before teh ego. some people like the drama, but I found it to be annoying. GGs!!

Die Hard
09-04-2006, 08:30 PM
Dammit, every time i see these screenies i feel bad because my old PC broke a year ago and I had nothing backed up!! Some truly great peeps in here :wootrock:

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-04-2006, 10:02 PM
Great screenies rosie.... Im gonna go digging out some more.. .lol

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-04-2006, 10:09 PM
Well heres 3 i posted for some1 in another forum... Great game to outlaws ozric

Also 2 mercs..

His name was Ozric.... Where are you ozz man ???? Not heard from you for like a couple of years... lol

JayChyl
09-05-2006, 02:19 PM
Great screenshots all, excluding Jiminator. You won't impress anyone with those Jim.

If you want real fun instead of hearing the braggings, go play a better game like UT2kX or Q4.

My ego haha. What you know bout my ego anyway? ^^

Edit: Removed some useless crap.

EXEcution
09-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Great screenshots all, excluding Jiminator. You won't impress anyone with those Jim.

If you want real fun instead of hearing the braggings, go play a better game like UT2kX or Q4.

My ego haha. What you know bout my ego anyway? ^^

Edit: Removed some useless crap.
You should have just removed your entire post. I don't even want to know about the stuff you decided to remove.

What you posted was wrong and completely irrelevant to the entire thread. You are trying to start a flame war for no reason. There was no instigation for you to start critisizing Jim or anyone else. Your post is inconsiderate and your rash behavior is not something to be proud of.

If it's a joke then I am not laughing. You sound like a 12 year old trying to get attention because either your friends or family don't give you any. The most pathetic and impersonal way to do that is through an online forum.

I will mention this. No matter what game you play (withing a community), whether it's for fun or for money, good sportsmanship is the only thing that will gain you respect. I am talking from personal experience and I can assure you that telling everyone that you are better than them is not going to get you any respect. I ultimately destroyed my appreciation of gaming because of seeing people act this way and then acting the same. One of the reasons that I don't play ssam, or any other game for that matter, because there is a lack of respect for players (new or old). There are plenty of other reasons as to why I decided to cut back on playing games but none stand out as much as the one I just mentioned.

There is no such thing as a "better game" in terms of enjoyment. You play what you like. I think that sam is better than any other First Person Shooter in terms of the enjoyment I get out of playing it.

JIMINATOR
09-05-2006, 06:31 PM
Great screenshots all, excluding Jiminator. You won't impress anyone with those Jim.

quit being a dumbass. i already explained the purpose of this thread. If your head wasn't so far up your ass people might actually like you, like they did before you became so l337.


that is enough for now. the thread isn't to brag, probably everyone has fragged my ass all over the place, but more to point out some good times that I had with excellent players, so ggz to all, where ever you are...

Nitro
09-06-2006, 02:52 AM
Aww let's be nice now. Nice screenshots Jim!

JayChyl
09-06-2006, 11:58 AM
and then there is also fastguy(pl)... before teh ego. some people like the drama

Who started? I've seen more topics about you bragging about my ego. Maybe you're just jealous?.

No further comments needed. Did you get a warning PM? I guess not. Discrimination is all over the place.

As for Exe. I don't really mind your post :D.

GG whoever played.

Edit: I guess the discrimination went so far that I won't be able to post my old games?

JIMINATOR
09-06-2006, 12:59 PM
please post any that are ~3 years old. Do I wish I had your skills? Sure. Am I jealous? not really. There is always someone better at anything you do. That is just life.

JayChyl
09-06-2006, 08:52 PM
True. I agree with you. But there's no need to mention "Fastguy with his ego" thingy.

EXEcution
09-06-2006, 11:32 PM
True. I agree with you. But there's no need to mention "Fastguy with his ego" thingy.
So by you showing off your ego you are in some way saying that you have no ego.

Ur super smartnessisity is too much for me.:bawling:

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-06-2006, 11:44 PM
nice thread Jim, but for the asses that are currently starting to ruin, just give up posting.... U know who you are.... Leave the damn thread alone, and let it run its purpose. There are some great screenies on this thread Jim, nice games bud.. And to the rest of you that have actually Read what the thread entails, gg's to you too.... :-) Lets not turn another thread into a load of bull, There have been to many of those..

Pathos
09-07-2006, 02:14 AM
May as well make this my 1000th post! [half hearted "yay"]

Here are a few i had on hand (mmm, hand). Not all are my own (firestarter for one is Bones), and I dug into my alias directory for the sake of some oldies... i am selfless in that way. [finds a priest and shakes his hand]

(Mmm... hand)

...

Pathos
09-07-2006, 02:21 AM
Mooore! [Oliver movie voice]

...

Pathos
09-07-2006, 02:28 AM
I would like to see this thread set to music. Who's with me?!

...

Pathos
09-07-2006, 02:37 AM
I'm sure i've posted these before... please forgive me if so, else i'll get all sniffly and cry and leave snot all over your shoulder. It'll be really gross...

...

Pathos
09-07-2006, 03:01 AM
No Leon's were harmed for this stunt.

...

Black Rose
09-07-2006, 06:23 AM
Whoa Pathos those screenies are fantastic :wootrock:
So many old names, old clan tags... the good old days .. great memories :)
I never forget this intense game with you, Static, Sirc and Death Sentence... I still feel the adrenaline rush when I remember this game.. :rofl:

Thanks for the screenies :wub: :wave:

leon
09-07-2006, 01:24 PM
Things were better in the old days.
one's sweet old home..... [Tears welled up in my eyes]

I felt as though I had gone far back in time.

Wonderful memory! Pathos and all. :thumbs:

Siron Ex
09-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Great Games Pathos :thumbs:

Xenu
09-07-2006, 10:46 PM
gg screenie all!

Hehe big shot/big ego Steve Teemu/Casanova got pwned by the real great one here and this is not the only time it has happened to him :P

Thanks for sharing them Pathos :D

Sirc
09-07-2006, 10:51 PM
gg screenie all!

Hehe big shot/big ego Steve Teemu/Casanova got pwned by the real great one here and this is not the only time it has happened :P

Thanks for sharing those Pathos :D

I ask again - who are you?

Cas is cool. You, however are not making a real good impression here. The thread is not about owning people, it's about sharing old screenies. Get with the program or get out. Please. :)

JayChyl
09-08-2006, 05:59 PM
Steve Teemu is probably one of the nicest people in the whole SSSE community.
You must be retarded if you don't agree with me. Adore him more. Some jealous dude here again ;). And what do you mean with "pwning?" Your post showed your real personality. "Pwning" in a game is the same as playing with toys in kindergarten.

PS. Retarded: Mental retardation (also called mental handicap[1] and, as defined by the UK Mental Health Act 1983, mental impairment and severe mental impairment[2]) is a term for a pattern of persistently slow learning of basic motor and language skills ("milestones") during childhood, and a significantly below-normal global intellectual capacity as an adult. One common criterion for diagnosis of mental retardation is a tested intelligence quotient (IQ) of 70 or below.

People with mental retardation are people who are usually described as having developmental disabilities.

BOA
09-08-2006, 06:17 PM
Oohh. A lot of good players and memories from the good old days.:)

And yes Casanova must be one of the nicest persons ever in SS.:thumbs:

Fifth
09-08-2006, 06:34 PM
Nice screens all.

;)

Figona Hatice
09-08-2006, 07:03 PM
Yea Steve Is The Nicest Dude Around , Believe me :thumbs: You can own him ( ooops sorry u cant :P ), laugh at him , trash him , he will never answer :P

Nitro
09-12-2006, 02:35 AM
I was Bones

Sirc
09-12-2006, 05:55 AM
I was Bones

Lies. :P

The REAL Bones played way back in the beginning when the Outlaws and Mercs first formed. He was amazing. He learned the maps and the strategies before, and better than, anyone else and he was pretty much unstoppable. You may say that there are better players than him, but that's only because he stopped playing, and he stopped playing before most of you started playing.

I don't know who the Bones is in the screenie, and I know that someone else started playing with that name later on. But to me the name Bones belongs to the original and not anyone who came after.

MR. SLiK
09-12-2006, 08:33 AM
these are all from 2001-2002 (well the labelling for 2001 might be wrong since sam:se came jan 2002, so these are probably all 2002.)
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/449/2oh5.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6658/1zm0.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6486/3rj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/539/4cx2.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7572/5ut0.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7563/6gt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7504/7tl6.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3941/8yu1.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9590/9yd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3222/10kb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1719/11bw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Xeno
09-12-2006, 09:34 AM
:eek:
Its amazing to see the old times, where I had never the idea to play this game

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-12-2006, 11:56 AM
nice screenies slik, they are some old times, that outlaw tag.. lol

Die Hard
09-12-2006, 01:22 PM
*sniffle*

Goober
09-12-2006, 02:36 PM
*sniffle*

I agree, seeing those old names and the memories that go along with them brings a tear to these old eyes.

The ownage by Machine and Hammer when I was just learning the game.
The humor brought by Pathos.
The sense of belonging, due to the creation of the clans.
The reason we all came to GM back in the days of Coop vs. DM.
(excuse me while I wipe my eyes)
there, all better now.
Meeting Machine, Dixie and their beautiful daughter Savannah, Rose, Mr. Evil, BiggD, and others at our first home grown Lan party. Folks may trash sam, but It brought lots of us together as friends for life.

Die Hard
09-12-2006, 04:22 PM
Yep, Sam has made me many a friend and for that if nothing else it's one hell of a game.

Fifth
09-12-2006, 04:52 PM
Great ones :D.

Xeno
09-12-2006, 05:18 PM
Yep, Sam has made me many a friend and for that if nothing else it's one hell of a game.
:D Serious Sam can't and will never die!!:D

Nitro
09-12-2006, 05:55 PM
Lies. :P

The REAL Bones played way back in the beginning when the Outlaws and Mercs first formed. He was amazing. He learned the maps and the strategies before, and better than, anyone else and he was pretty much unstoppable. You may say that there are better players than him, but that's only because he stopped playing, and he stopped playing before most of you started playing.

I don't know who the Bones is in the screenie, and I know that someone else started playing with that name later on. But to me the name Bones belongs to the original and not anyone who came after.
Yea I heard he was amazing. A shame he stopped playing in 2002. I went to archive.org several months back and found an old interview Sal did with him and he sounded like he really knew his DM stuff. Any idea where he ran off to?

K.L.A.S.E.R.9
09-12-2006, 06:34 PM
What happened to <<GODS>>??

Free Styler
09-13-2006, 12:08 AM
holofx was me hehe:) Wow old school screenie indeed.that was my name for a month or 2 before i switched to free styler.I had not seen that name in ages.
Nice screenies btw

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-13-2006, 12:11 AM
What happened to <<GODS>>??

gods still live @ godsclans.com

Sirc
09-13-2006, 12:24 AM
Yea I heard he was amazing. A shame he stopped playing in 2002. I went to archive.org several months back and found an old interview Sal did with him and he sounded like he really knew his DM stuff. Any idea where he ran off to?

He started playing another game, but I forget which one. As more people started playing SS:SE he became famous, and I don't think he was comfortable with it. About the time that people started to try to talk with him in-game (and probably trash talk him too) all the time and started bombarding him with invitations to join clans *cough*MERCS*cough* he quit the game. :(

Sirc
09-13-2006, 12:30 AM
these are all from 2001-2002 (well the labelling for 2001 might be wrong since sam:se came jan 2002, so these are probably all 2002.)


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1719/11bw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ZOMG, now THAT is an old screenshot. :eek:

Back when I was in the WCFD clan, lol. My first clan. :D

Free Styler
09-13-2006, 01:05 AM
i can honestly say or think i know that i played the "real" bones twice.
He had a alias but my feelings were strongly towards the fact he was
Bones.He had a alias with a weird colour that no one used,Hole and forteress
were the maps i played him.Anyways all to say that if it was not him it was no one i knew from back in the day.This was late 2002 i think.I asked him who he was and got no awnser. Well i did get a awnser but i'll leave it be.Anyways what was the outcome you may ask? Imagine me glowing orange blue and invisible . That was the outcome lol. I remember when timing power ups was a routine for me hehe. Every thing said to each other pointed out to the fact he was who i thought he was. Top notch player for shure ...maybe i'm wrong but i dont think so :)

Xeno
09-13-2006, 09:57 AM
ZOMG, now THAT is an old screenshot. :eek:

Back when I was in the WCFD clan, lol. My first clan. :D
It seems to be really old,
in which clan are you now?

Digital Fighter
09-13-2006, 10:19 AM
I dont know eny 1 of does screenies.......:bawling:
But,GG's :thumbs:

FUS1ON
09-13-2006, 03:07 PM
It seems to be really old,
in which clan are you now?

He is in WCFDADL (We Can Fart Dust All Day Long)

Sirc
09-13-2006, 08:15 PM
It seems to be really old,
in which clan are you now?

None. I don't play SS enough to justify being in a clan.

Xeno
09-13-2006, 08:30 PM
He is in WCFDADL (We Can Fart Dust All Day Long)
:rofl:

Xeno
09-13-2006, 08:31 PM
None. I don't play SS enough to justify being in a clan.
Then change your mind dude;)

Die Hard
09-13-2006, 08:41 PM
You don't have to play Sam to be in a clan.

Xeno
09-13-2006, 08:57 PM
You don't have to play Sam to be in a clan.
True:thumbs:

Aries
09-13-2006, 09:34 PM
Things were better in the old days.
one's sweet old home..... [Tears welled up in my eyes]

I felt as though I had gone far back in time.

Wonderful memory! Pathos and all. :thumbs:

I agree

@ Pathos, haven't seen those MERCAP tags for such a long time :-P

Sirc
09-13-2006, 09:55 PM
You don't have to play Sam to be in a clan.

Okay, then I'm not around enough to participate in a clan's forums/activities to justify being in a clan.

And if that doesn't work for ya, then I'm just too damn grumpy to be in a clan. So there. :P

SHOTGUNmaniac
09-13-2006, 10:21 PM
None. I don't play SS enough to justify being in a clan.

Thought u was in Exodus

Sirc
09-13-2006, 10:29 PM
Thought u was in Exodus

I was. See my previous posts.

merkwannabe
09-13-2006, 11:56 PM
Hello nostalgia.

Nitro
09-16-2006, 10:02 PM
here's a fun one

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4532/fortressshot0001lotspplaw0.jpg

Zeb89
09-17-2006, 07:05 AM
Hmm a lot of great games. I wouldn't know any of these people since i have played for only 5 months.