'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

[Nitro]

'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.

"With this decision, Gov. Schwarzenegger has told parents that their values are irrelevant. Many parents will have no choice but to pull their children out of the public schools that have now become sexualized indoctrination centers."

"Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, which worked to defeat the plans. "This means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms.

"Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130

[Caged Anger]

lawl....bombs being detonated in marketplaces but this is what grabs headlines....

<-- amused

[Mad Fox]

Who cares? There are fathers and mothers dieing in Baghdad. Mothers and fathers waiting in emergency rooms without heathcare. Mom and Dads working 2 minimun jobs to buy food.


I'll worry about the Govenator later.

[Nitro]

wow you guys have no sense of morality or i am not reading your posts correctly

"allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose"

kids are oversexualized as it is...this is rediculous. even when i was in kindergarten, we played sex games but that was before all this 'progressive' bs so it was nothing compared to what they do now...and if you want to know i can spell it out for you cuz Loveline talked about it. yea, let's not care that our daughters are growing up to be little whores. /sarcasm
instead of worrying about issues in other countries, how about caring for what is happening domestically first?

[Mad Fox]

I do care about domestics. And who says kids are oversexed. During the middle ages children were married at thirteen.

[Nitro]

You are comparing two time periods that are incomparable. Yes, they married at 13 but before that marriage, kids never as much as kissed a girl. There was on internet pornotopia, no government-controlled schools teaching kids about sex, etc etc. You don't care about domestics?!?! Good riddance when I leave this country that's filled with apathetic non-chalants like you.

..my apologies if I offended you.

[ME BIGGD01]

If kids are oversexed or anything you can blame the parents of that individual kid. If you feel you can judge I suggest take a step back and look at your surroundings. You are most likely not around good people.

If your point is that there is no censorship I will agree but that's why as a parent I am aware of my daughters surroundings at all times and will be so until she is old enough to make her own descisions. After all I am a parent.

[Nitro]

I think homeschooling is the only option. I went to public and private schools and I can tell you that those 2 years of public school (kindergarten ad 1st grade) did long-term damage that didn't leave until about 8th grade. I was nearly expelled 4 times because of things I picked up in the gov't school. If your daughter goes to public school, god help her.

[ME BIGGD01]

Well here is the difference Nitro. It appears you were not controllable or maybe your parents did not take the responsibility. That's ok as it does seem to be the way society has become and the kind of Americans your family represents. You see I do not depend or will I ever rely on School to be the thing that teaches my daughter how to act or behave. She will learn how to read although I and my wife take a big part of that also. My daughter is going to be 5 in November and she is very respectful and well mannered. Don't quote me though, ask people that have met her such as Goober and, Pure Evil and Lash. They have been in my home and I have been in theres and letthem judge and say how they see it.

I can not blame any school or teacher for my daughters actions today or in the future. I can judge to my own daughters behavior and be sure that she is respectful and does what she needs to do.


"I was nearly expelled 4 times because of things I picked up in the gov't school."

Sorry but this is not acceptable. Although I would like to know what you did for giggles.

[Nitro]

it is an excuse since my public school was pretty much all black, or mostly black and those kids behaved like they came straight out of an uncivilized tribe of savages. harsh words but correct. if a kid got in a fight, the teacher jstu turned her head...LITERALLY and didint do jack squat about it, hence me learning that fighting and beating the crap out of kids was allowed and accepted so i beat some kid into a pulp in the classroom closets. kids getting on top of their desks and stripping i mean come on, how do u NOT see that it affected me and my actions? this is why i say those schools mold and shape a child ot become what they become and do the things they do. i was an angel, if a may use the term before i went ot school. no way in bloody hell will anyone get me to put my kids in school. i will unleash all hell if they do try to do that since i see what school is like...and this was 10-15 years ago so i wonder how times have changed....definitely much worse.

im sure your daughter is a little angel herself since she has not been exposed to the evil and sick world via govt schools. be careful once she turns 6 and has to go to kindergarten man...

u'd like to really know would ya hehe. let's just say 2 of them had to do with "indecent exposure" at the catholic school hehehehe

[ME BIGGD01]

My daughter is is an angel thank god but if I was your parents or let me just say there is no way in hell my daughter is going to a school like that. Trust me, I made sure what kind of kids are in my daughters class. There is no way in hell I would let my kids go to a scholl that was majority black or hispanic and I will say it lke it is. I see what happens and no way would I ever subject any kid to a school like that. White parents deserve what they get if they stay in that kind of area. A kid who has his underwear out and a hat that slants left and thinks he is black. That's not racial but truth. Those movies about these kinds of schools are for real.

You have to blame your parents for that Nitro. I would rather live in a box in a nice school district than a decent in a not so nice school district. If I was you I would bring that up to them right now and maybe cry.:thumbs:

[Nitro]

well you know, its hard for immigrants coming to this country to know how good the school system is. most immigrants, like my parents thought the schools here would be better than the communist ones in poland but ohhh how wrong they were and quicker realized that which is why i went ot private school after that but the damage had already been done :(

[Mad Fox]

I went to Catholic School my whole life and I think it made neurotic and off kilter.

[EXEcution]

Ah the former joys of attending public school in the suburbs.

[SHOTGUNmaniac]

I do care about domestics. And who says kids are oversexed. During the middle ages children were married at thirteen.

And these days they are pregnant by 13.

[Mad Fox]

Myabe I should ask this:

How many young people under the age of 17 do you personally know that are exhibiting unprecendented sexual prowless unlike you have seen or knew of as a young person yourself?

Also explain?

[BobtheCkroach]

And these days they are pregnant by 13.

QFT!

Where's the "applaud til the sun goes down" smilie?

[Asian Invasian]

And these days they are pregnant by 13.
Agreed.
The times have changed and honestly its becoming obvious how many little 10 or 12 year olds are wearing makeup and really short skirts, and other sexual clothing. Everyday it gets worse and worse imo. Just coming out of highschool its so obvious that public schools can affect people and how they grow up. However it really all depends on where you live and the type of school you go to, but for the most part it is obvious how bad it is getting if you have been to a public school in the last few years.

Honestly I could easily name more than 25 people I know who have had sex before 17. On top of that I could name 5 of them getting pregnant before 17.

[ME BIGGD01]

It all comes down to the irresponsible parents. If a parent is not aware of all of the surroundings of their child then they are at fault. Today you also have the parents that want to be cool rather than responsible. There is no excuse and if I see a child with a baby, I blame the aprents.

Major problem with society as I said years ago here.

Parents both working which leaves less time for parenting or less energy.
Divorce rate higher than ever.
Mixed schools that take away from the education dept and focus goes on the minority's that don't even represent 1% of the schools tax funds.
Parent
Parents
Parenting


This is what you get from todays society which as you all know how I feel about it. The American values are going downward and for once I wish people would wake up and see what is going on and figure out what the reasons are. What do you think makes me so outspoken for.

[Asian Invasian]

It all comes down to the irresponsible parents. If a parent is not aware of all of the surroundings of their child then they are at fault. Today you also have the parents that want to be cool rather than responsible. There is no excuse and if I see a child with a baby, I blame the aprents.

Major problem with society as I said years ago here.

Parents both working which leaves less time for parenting or less energy.
Divorce rate higher than ever.
Mixed schools that take away from the education dept and focus goes on the minority's that don't even represent 1% of the schools tax funds.
Parent
Parents
Parenting


This is what you get from todays society which as you all know how I feel about it. The American values are going downward and for once I wish people would wake up and see what is going on and figure out what the reasons are. What do you think makes me so outspoken for.

I agree with this statement, for the most part the parents are usually to blame. There are the special cases though, but mostly neglective parents.

[Nitro]

Norway: Let kids indulge in sex play in class

Norwegians woke up Tuesday morning to news that a respected Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, thinks children should be allowed to openly express their own sexuality, not least through sex play and games in the local day care centers known as barnehager, or kindergartens.

The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.

Pia Friis, leader of the popular Bjerkealleen Barnehage in Oslo and a well-known pre-school educator, told newspaper Dagbladet on Tuesday that children should be allowed to express their own sexuality at day care centers. She doesn't want to stifle what comes naturally.

Children, she said, should be able "to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate.

"But their sexuality must also be socialized, so they are not, for example, allowed to masturbate while sitting and eating. Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to."

Friis said there's a lot of uncertainty around how day care center employees should handle children's sexuality.

"The only thing that is absolutely certain is that children, sooner or later, will play sexual games and examine each other at the kindergarten," she told Dagbladet. "When the personnel are uncertain, that passes on to the children, and it can be negative."

The issue is the topic of an article in the latest edition of the magazine published by Norway's industry association for privately owned kindergartens, PBL-nytt, and Friis thinks it's important. So do child psychologist Thore Langfeldt and family therapist Jesper Juul.

"Children must learn about sexuality, otherwise things can go very wrong," said Langfeldt. "Children can't object to something they don't know about, and children can more easily and readily report assaults if they already are aware of their own sexuality."

Juul conceded that "many are disturbed by children's sexuality, but I think it's important to put it on the agenda. That, in fact, is what we're doing."

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2050710.ece

thoughts? outraged? i am.

[ME BIGGD01]

One would have to see something is wrong with a person who wants to do that. You have to wonder what their agenda is and it most likely has to do with child porn. Someone needs to stab her in the kidneys about 7 times. I am talking American Me style.

[OUTLAWS Tip]

I think I tried to masturbate in pre-school.



It didn't work.
:rofl:

[Death Engineer]

Having a young daughter like Biggs, these kinds of issues are highly charged ones for me. I have to agree with him...if you're counting on society and/or the school systems to educate your children about sex, you're taking a huge risk.

Sex Ed should start in the home. And it shouldn't start at 13. As others have noted, they will have several friends or at least know of people their age that have contracted STDs and/or gotten pregnant by then.

To give you an idea, I already talk to my 3 year old son about sex....obviously in very high level terms. But that communication is probably the most important thing you can do for them in that regard. Having a relationship with both parents to begin with is such a rarity these days... I intend to make my time with my kids count. Because one day they will be out on their own and they'll be the ones voting on things like this law.


Edit: Apparently the words "mom" and "dad" are not involved in the legislation. I should have done a little better research before I responded.

[Nitro]

good goods d.e.

the governator is getting alot of heat for this bill he just signed (and rightfully so)

linky: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/181007_schwarzeneggar.html

[ME BIGGD01]

good goods d.e.

the governator is getting alot of heat for this bill he just signed (and rightfully so)

linky: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/181007_schwarzeneggar.html


What an idiot. I am so sick of the people in this country trying to kill of American value. I am sick of this homo crap. Who the F cares what anyone is. I am sick of it being forced on people that we have to except this crap. These politicians need to start getting lynched. I can't even discuss this anymore because it sickens me.